use laptop screen on a pc?? [Archive] - Techwarelabs Community

Frank

04-24-2002, 11:19 PM

like whathisname mentionned above, I DID find a way (well person who did it) and YES it does work BUT it takes a whol lot of work.

one problem that arises: vga=analog; lcd=digital. this means that vga sends voltages when digital sends 0's and 1's. Catch my drift? So what you really need: Time, a bit of money, get the controller FIRST, THEN get the lcd because it's harder to find the controller, find that first that way it easyer to find an lcd for it. Then, you need some soldering skills and patience. Here's the end product:

http://mp3box.2y.net/temp/lcdworkingweb.jpg

Aemon_

04-25-2002, 12:20 AM

hey thats cool. SPAMis there more of an explanation on the site where that pic came from? url? SPAMthanks alot frank. SPAMwas that controller built or bought? SPAManyway, thanks again. later.

XDiGiTaLX

04-25-2002, 05:49 AM

this is next level shit

how much does the card cost?

Frank

04-25-2002, 06:23 PM

next level!? if you say so!

i'm talking it up with the guy to see if he wants to make a "how-to" or something.

XDiGiTaLX

04-26-2002, 05:46 AM

cool.... you should do one after that for Voided

Frank

04-26-2002, 08:19 PM

ok perhaps you don't get my point of my music box project: for one, I want a project to do. #2 I want music in my room. #3 I NEED to make a few guides for the site as we are in need of a few. #4 I have moded anything in too long (a year?). I'll try to make as many guides as needed (lcd module, lcd screen, making of the box, testing of the cpu and hsf...)

Smoked1

04-27-2002, 04:54 PM

It seems like you guys are getting a little heated latley. Toke up? What?

Frank

04-27-2002, 06:14 PM

i'm not a toker. never have been, never will be.

XDiGiTaLX

04-28-2002, 03:06 AM

sorry frank whats wrong?! ???

Frank

04-28-2002, 01:13 PM

many MANY things. catch me on icq and i'll let you know.

Smoked1

04-28-2002, 02:00 PM

yeaf what is wrong man. you seem a little upset.

Frank

04-28-2002, 07:11 PM

how can my upsetness show with text???

XDiGiTaLX

04-28-2002, 08:13 PM

cuz how u answer questions SPAM:'(

Frank

04-29-2002, 10:19 PM

i c...

guess i'll try to fix that.

apologies if anyoe has been offended.

XDiGiTaLX

04-30-2002, 05:22 AM

hehe

btw how mcuh does the whole laptop project cost in total?

Frank

04-30-2002, 07:47 PM

dunno. I have not figured that out yet. I don't think I ever will figure it out. need this, need that, keep this bill, loose that one. i'm figuring somewhere around 200-300$ US

XDiGiTaLX

05-01-2002, 08:19 PM

shit u coulda just bought a whole lcd wit that price

Frank

05-02-2002, 12:42 PM

true but an lcd will not play music in my room... also, I got the hookups for pretty much any HP product... so I see an HP lcd in my pc at the end of the summer SPAM;D

Cletus

05-10-2002, 09:35 PM

You guys read my mind exactly on this forum, i'd love to have one of those cheap lcd's suspended on an adjustable arm off my main monitor. SPAMProb is, i haven't found much evidence of anyone having actually done this. SPAMI found this site [url][/http://www.laptopsagain.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/Toshiba_Screens.html]
which offers toshiba screens, "FL inverters" (whatever those are) and cabling harness. SPAMThe harness looks promising as it is what (i assume) connects the video card, to the FL inverter, to the lcd screen. SPAMIt would seem to me that whatever plugs into the video card could probably be modded to fit into a dvi adapter.

Frank

05-14-2002, 12:26 AM

cletus, none of the parts you see on that site are the ones really needed. what's really needed and hard to find is an lcd controller.

KeyserSose

05-22-2002, 11:07 AM

Heres the pinouts for the NEC TFT if anyone needs them...

Pin No. Symbol Function
1 GND Ground
2 DCLK Dot clock
3 GND Ground
4 Hsync Horizontal sync
5 Vsync Vertical sync
6 GND Ground
7 GND Ground
8 GND Ground
9 R0 Red data (LSB)
10 R1 Red data
11 R2 Red data
12 GND Ground
13 R3 Red data
14 R4 Red data
15 R5 Red data (MSB)
16 GND Ground
17 GND Ground
18 GND Ground
19 G0 Green data (LSB)
20 G1 Green data
21 G2 Green data
22 GND Ground
23 G3 Green data
24 G4 Green data
25 G5 Green data (MSB)
26 GND Ground
27 GND Ground
28 GND Ground
29 B0 Blue data (LSB)
30 B1 Blue data
31 B2 Blue data
32 GND Ground
33 B3 Blue data
34 B4 Blue data
35 B5 Blue data (MSB)
36 GND Ground
37 DE Data / Display enable
38 Vcc 3.3 v
39 Vcc 3.3 v
40 Vcc 3.3 v
Theres one more pin, which is 41: MODE Timing mode select, which is listed as H=Fixed mode, or L /open (assume it means not connected) = DE mode

And heres the I-Opener LCD pinouts

I-opener CN2

Pin No. Symbol Function
1 G4 Green Data
2 G5 Green Data (MSB)
3 R0 Red data (LSB)
4 R1 Red data
5 Vss/Ground Ground
6 R2 Red data
7 R3 Red data
8 R4 Red data
9 R5 Red data (MSB)
10 Vss/Ground Ground
11 B2 Blue data
12 B3 Blue data
13 B4 Blue data
14 B5 Blue data (MSB)
15 Vss/GND Ground
16 G0 Green data (LSB)
17 G1 Green data
18 G2 Green data
19 G3 Green data
20 Vss/GND Ground
21 Notch Not connected
22 LP/Hsync Horizontal sync.
23 YD/Vsync Vertical sync.
24 XCLK Dot clock?
25 Vss/GND Ground
26 VCON Contrast
27 DISP/ENVEE Enable VEE? Display enable?
28 Vdd/3.3v 3.3v
29 Vdd/3.3v 3.3v
30 Vdd/3.3v 3.3v

Okay assuming, (there I go again...making an ass outta myself) the pinouts are correct, I get this:

TFT pin LCD cable Pin Description
24 1 G4 Green data
25 2 G5 Green data (MSB)
9 3 R0 Red data (LSB)
10 4 R1 Red data
7 5 GND
11 6 R2 Red data
13 7 R3 Red data
14 8 R4 Red data
15 9 R5 Red data (MSB)
27 10 GND
31 11 B2 Blue data
33 12 B3 Blue data
34 13 B4 Blue data
35 14 B5 Blue data (MSB)
17 15 GND
19 16 G0 Green data (LSB)
20 17 GND
21 18 G2 Green data
23 19 G3 Green data
3 20 GND
N/C 21 Not connected
4 22 Hsync
5 23 Vsync
2 24 XCLK / Dot clock
1 25 GND
VCON 26 Contrast?
37 27 DE / Disp / Envee
38 28 3.3v
39 29 3.3v
40 30 3.3v

Frank

05-24-2002, 04:49 PM

where the hell did you get that????

i've been looking for that for so long!

aoC_PRoZaK

06-13-2002, 03:27 PM

whaddaya think uv this, i got a 5" TFT screen that i'll mount in me bays for funny dual monitoring

aoC_PRoZaK

06-13-2002, 03:28 PM

lookin dope

Uranium-235

06-13-2002, 03:41 PM

dope indeed

Smoked1

06-13-2002, 05:53 PM

Prozak, you are the man! How the hell did you do that?

PowerWCRulez

06-15-2002, 02:13 AM

Hey -=aoC|PRoZaK=-, You're totally great modder on these LCD! :)

Smoked1

06-15-2002, 04:31 AM

He truly is a great modder

aoC_PRoZaK

06-15-2002, 06:43 PM

nah, i bought the shidd for an ass full uv money (240 euro). that babe got a stink normal coax 75 ohms tv in. i'll put that babe behind a nice looking aluminium frame together with an analog vu-meter whose little red rods i'll light up wit uv leds SPAM8)

Smoked1

06-15-2002, 08:37 PM

PROZAK DA MAN

aoC_PRoZaK

06-16-2002, 08:13 AM

i dedicate all my new case to the voided warranty and it's crew. i think we represent enthusiasm, the big fight for the best performance and the thought that computers gotta be more than a shitty beige box :)

aoC_PRoZaK

06-17-2002, 06:23 PM

got the alu frame finished today. now it is time for some soldering action. i think i will finish the screen project in about 2 to 3 days and then i'll get the cam and publish some action shots ;D 8)

Smoked1

06-18-2002, 01:55 AM

That's what Im talkin about man. HA!
-=aoC|PRoZaK=- ROCKS

aoC_PRoZaK

06-18-2002, 01:44 PM

ok. i gots the uv lights now. the vu-meter is lighted from left and right by a high power uv led rated 3,2 volts 180 mA each SPAM8) :o. those little pointers are uv-active. they look so ince glowin pink in front uv tha blue background. i also built in a lighted switch for the lcd ;D

Smoked1

06-18-2002, 04:11 PM

SWEET!

aoC_PRoZaK

06-18-2002, 05:54 PM

got the frame finished, built in plexi for savety of tft, built in tft, built in vu meter w/ uv leds, built in red led lighted switch for the tft, begin soldering tomorrow, will finish tomorrow or day after, publish pix soon 8)

Smoked1

06-19-2002, 02:02 AM

Fuckin sweet man!

rhinocerology

06-19-2002, 09:39 AM

aiight i have a question for yh, lets say u get a laptop screen like a 14 or 15 incher can u hook that up and stick it on the side of u're computer on the panel were u're mobo would be sitting on u know what i mean?? what i'm really asking here is will a normal laptop screen work and those it matter what company it's from?? and can u get them with a touchscreem thingy?? they technically u wouldn't need too bring u're monitor and u could use a mouse if u wanted too, get what i mean?

aoC_PRoZaK

06-19-2002, 12:02 PM

hmm, as we already talked bout it bro, it is really hard work and requires hard skillz. :-/

rhinocerology

06-19-2002, 12:36 PM

those anyone know were i can aquire these hard skillz?? cause that would be sixk if i had that on the side of case. there has too be some one around here who knows how too do it am i right?

aoC_PRoZaK

06-19-2002, 05:17 PM

there was a guy somewhere around the third page of this thread

Smoked1

06-20-2002, 12:45 AM

Hel. I don't even have the skills to do it. I know that if I was to try it that i would be able to do it though. I think the first step is to get the stuff and then just do it.

aoC_PRoZaK

06-20-2002, 07:18 AM

ya, exactly what i said. i had the vu meter lying around for half a year or so and then i thought, why don't combine it with a 5"tft and an alu frame. and hey, i gots the shit nearly finished and it looks so damn good that even my local modder collegues got greed-greenand nearly died from shame ;D

Smoked1

06-20-2002, 11:33 AM

As well they should.

aoC_PRoZaK

06-20-2002, 12:55 PM

ya, we rox

Aemon_

06-21-2002, 12:13 PM

i wanted to put a laptop screen in my truck for an mp3 box i had started workin on. SPAMbut i had no idea how to adapt the lcd to the pc, then frank sorta figured it out, but it would cost a few hundred bucks, so i would still SPAMlove to do this, but its too rich for me right now. SPAMactually the whole project is on hold, getting married in 3 months, so all my attention is there. SPAMthanks for all your help guys.

and prozac, that screen is bad man. good job.

later.

Smoked1

06-21-2002, 02:05 PM

Well, I wish you the best of luck with that.

aoC_PRoZaK

06-22-2002, 09:42 AM

hey aemon_, THX! but i have to admit that i had to loose my mind to buy the screen. ( 240 euro is about the same in dollars). but it is damn hard to get such stuff outback here in austria (NOT AUSTRALIA, but outback too SPAM;D) but i have been working for 6 months now just to have the money for one uv the damn hardest case modz the whole web has ever spotted. it may not be too weird, such as the one from the www.craft464.com webmasted http://www.craft464.com/chasemods/gifs/Ohne-Titel-1_small.jpg but it will be kickass, it will be 31337, it will be the warranty voiding "STEEL TORMENTOR". btw, i intend to let lasercut the voided warranty signature into my case, somewhere not to big in the upper leff uv the left side, near the PSU. ;D

Smoked1

06-23-2002, 12:20 AM

Now that would be KICK ASS! That case is pretty dope

MIK3

06-23-2002, 01:12 AM

My god!!!! U gotta have a heck of a talent and passion as well to construct such a MASTERPIECE! Congrats to that case!!! SPAMIm lovin it! SPAMI wonder how much it would sell for! SPAM

aoC_PRoZaK

06-23-2002, 07:42 AM

the guy made another one he once said he would sell i think, but he is from germany ::)

MIK3

06-23-2002, 01:30 PM

As i look at it it kinda looks holographic...is it or is it 3-D. SPAMIf it is infact 3-Dimensional...man that must have taken alot of effort and many hours a day to accomplish and the detail in is is magnificent! Brilliant!

voodoosi

09-29-2002, 02:52 PM

Hi. electrical engineer & college proffesor here.
Working on the same project. here is the deal. tou CAN use a laptop screen on a standard PC. Configuring it to work with you analog VGA card is possible, but VERY VERY impracticle. here is what I reccomend for cost efficiency and ease. I know you want to keep it cheap.
if you dont have a main board yet (or if you do and have all the parts and pieces, IE chip, memory, etc) purchase a EBC 552 pc card. everything is built in including a TFT controller. then its just an issue of making a connector and matching the pins. these cards are made for AMD, Pentium, and VIA Cyrix, so you can buy the to match the CPU and memory you already have. they go for about 100$. kind of expensive, but its the closest
to plug and play as it gets. you'll easily spend 100 in parts and pieces to make a standart VGA card work....and you might end up burning something up.
I'm curious...what kind of interface are you going to use?? mouse, keyboard?

good luck.
voodoosi@hotmail.com
let me know how it works out

Aemon_

09-30-2002, 12:10 PM

wow, thats awesome. not bad, where do i go to lookinto buying one? havent found a retailer online yet. only been searchin a few mins. cant buy it anytime soon, no money! ack!

i had originally envisioned a touchscreen, but i could stand a number pad. or i have seen some people crack open a keyboard and use the controller to make their own keypad.

thanks for the help man.

later

eviltechie

09-30-2002, 04:23 PM

http://www.iei.com.tw/products/pdf-lcd-series/touch-screen.pdf

IEI makes hundreds of models

including NAS for Iomega

vee_ess

10-12-2002, 05:39 AM

He he. Touch screens are cool.

MIK3

10-13-2002, 04:24 AM

Heck yeah they are! Excpecially for ppl like me who are too lazy to move my hand w/ the mouse to the designated area of the screen...ugh...aint it a hassle?

ratgod

10-17-2002, 08:35 PM

Hi, I have a colour LCD from an old IBM Thinkpad (370C i think) and the screen model is Toshiba TLX-8063S-ZZA, does anyone have any information on this screen?
I would like a pinout for the connector/s that is has and possibly a timing diagram and/or information for interfacing it to a PC :)

Thanks in advance for anyone who can help :)

MrIT

10-24-2002, 12:51 PM

:confused:

Anybody any idea where to get these Embedded Controller boards voodoosi is talking about in his post.

Also does anybody have any experience with these boards?

A re-seller in Canada would be nice but the States works, too.

Thanks

:confused:

Aemon_

10-24-2002, 03:09 PM

i havent found anywhere yet either mrIT. i'll email him though. my funds for this project have run thin, but i have a new job now, i may be able to start on it again.

later

10-24-2002, 03:22 PM

I already emailed them and here is their answer:

Dear Mr. :

The embedded controller card you are interested in, our EBC-552, can be purchased directly from Nexcom here in the U.S. Below I have provided you with a quotation for small quantities of this product, from 1-10 pieces. If your volume is higher than this, please let me know and I will provide you with an alternate pricing quotation.

EBC-552 (P/N: 1E00055200) 5.25" form factor Pentium grade embedded controller supports all Socket 7 CPU up to 400MHz, Intel Low Power CPU Supported, Max. 128MB SO-DIMM SDRAM, on-board PC 104 connector and 32bit PCI connector, with ESS ES1989 Audio.

I do not like the price though.
:mad:

MrIT

10-24-2002, 03:25 PM

In another post I read that digital output motherboards could work, too.

How?

MrIT

10-25-2002, 09:53 AM

I found this last night on a German web site.

It is an analog/digital rgb converter card.

http://www.baytek.de/englisch/BayView_AVD1.htm

http://www.baytek.de/grafik/bilder/b_bvavd1.jpg

I wonder if this could work?
:confused:

Aemon_

10-25-2002, 11:10 AM

how much was it guest?

i dunno if that would work or not MrIT.

i still havent learned much about that card mentioned before. i think that would be my best way of going. everthing is included. all you have to do is get the pinouts of the digital output on that card and the pinouts of a laptop screen and then see if you can fry anything.

later

MrIT

10-25-2002, 11:30 AM

The NEXCom Card is $338US.

I found another card CRTtoLCD

http://www.dr-berghaus.de/

Aemon_

10-25-2002, 11:42 AM

$338!? nevermind that.

later

stoko

11-09-2002, 06:40 AM

there is a thread about connecting laptop LCD to PC on this adress:

http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=753f3c27f0cecea25009afc6d03efd78&threadid=6176

please read it, any help would be apriciated!

i think there would be a way to do it, by taking raw digital signal from video card before D/A conversion!
stoko!

Bradford

11-26-2002, 09:09 PM

Hey guys, first post here :)

Nice work so far, I'm feelin it.

Maybe you'd wanna check out this post (http://forums.blagged-hardware.net/viewtopic.php?t=780) and this one (http://forums.blagged-hardware.net/viewtopic.php?t=753).

I'm working on a full writeup, but I'm hella busy right now.

CB-Byte

11-29-2002, 12:07 PM

:biggrin: I hope this schematic diag. can aid u guys. Prepare ur Hardware Interface Programming skills guys. Better install C/C++ now! U need to develop a controller software to manipulate signal passed thru the Parallel Port.

CB-Byte

Parnelli

01-19-2003, 07:39 PM

I have an older toshiba LCD out of a 430 model toshiba, it has close to 40 pins for the connector at the lcd it's self but if you have the harness and invert and all other components between the LCD and the laptop video card it may be usefull because laptop video card has either 28 or 30pins out I do not remember and it is in a box somewhere, what I wondered is if I hack a DVI cable wich has 28 pins could you mess with it that way, kind of a trial and error way, or see if you can get schematics on how laptop video cards have their pin's setup????? ya know what I mean??? maybe you can just hack a DVI cable and that would work?????? who knows?

CB-Byte

01-20-2003, 10:25 PM

Well, curiousity kills, if i were U, i'll try messing up with the dvi but not on my pentium 4, maybe on my 486... :biggrin:

sh1mmer

01-23-2003, 01:34 AM

Well I found this forum on google but I thought you guys might be interested in a few things I have been finding.

1. To frank with the tiny tiny lcd screen. A guy called Drew made this http://bigasterisk.com/toilet/PythonToilet2.html it is has an lcd which scrolls news headlines etc. Drew made a custom module and then ran the lcd with python. I thought this might be able to help you with your mp3 jukebox project.

2. For other people wanting ways to convert laptop screens for computers I have found a couple of things, which gives me hope.

I have an old Compaq LTE Elite 4/75. Doing a quick server on google got me this http://mobilix.org/compaq_lte475cx_en.html which lists the video card in the computer. Google than brought me to the mother lode check this pdf out http://www.cdynamics.com/support/manuals/wdfpkit/Wdfpmc2.pdf . It seems to contail everything anyone could want to know about the board in the laptop I have.

I am still not sure who makes the screen as yet however this page http://www.woe.onlinehome.de/e_lcddata.htm and this page http://www.rtdusa.com/appnote/108_lcd.htm

This gives me some hope that these things can be converted with a little elbow work.

Tom

(edit) I found this http://wwss1pro.compaq.com/support/reference_library/viewdocument.asp?countrycode=1000&prodid=11|LTE+Elite&source=194061-001.xml&dt=13&docid=8814 which goes into some depth about the laptop I am pulling to pieces. It also points out which components are which and talk to some degree about how they work.

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sneeze

03-10-2003, 10:32 PM

http://www.eio.com/lcdintro.htm

http://www.eio.com/lcdprodt.htm

didn't see it linked in your posts, piles of info/documentation and cheap lcd's, cable kits, inverters ... for example:

http://www.eio.com/32240.gif

'luck. :wavey:

bonebox

03-17-2003, 01:36 PM

hi guys , I've been admiring your quest for the "unavailable" :)

I'm here to tell you that I have a fully working PC with 2 LCD's ripped out of dell laptops.

they are both 15 inch ... VERY NICE WIDE ANGLE. :biggrin:

i'm buying another PCI RADEON 7000 dual display to run dual card quad LCD. :))))))))))))))))))

the way i did it was a bit tricky but very doable.

ALL LCD's are produced with the ANALOG pinouts on the PCB ... they are just never really used on laptops... i just soldered wires on them and fed them out :)

when you look at an analog connector :

1 RED 9 NC
2 GREEN 10 GND
3 BLUE 11 ID0
4 ID2 12 ID1
5 GND TEST 13 HS
6 GND 14 VS
7 GND 15 ID3
8 GND

the following pins do NOT need to be wired : 4,9,11,12,15

that leaves 1,2,3,5,6,7,8,10,13,14

now the best way i found was to use a DVI/VGA converter adapter(they go for about 9.99 canadian)

crack it open
now all that should remain is a black cable, a red cable and 2 small PCB boards.

NOTE that pin 1thru 8 are not used !!! which is all the DIGITAL SIGNALS pin outs.

now if you look , all i did was explain the inner core of a DVI/VGA adapter.
true however. now just connect the cables using the DVI input from a video card (or can be purchased for 7.99) and WIRE it back to use your laptop screen.

NOW ALL SCREENS USE DIFFERENT COLOR CODE ... the best way is to follow the wire on to the LCD BOARD and use common sense and feel (this is where i spent most of my time ...) there you will find the unused pinouts and the necessary used ones..

HOPE THIS HELPS ...

for the technical aspects of the computer.

AMD ATHLON XP 2200+
MSI KT3 ULTRA w/RAID w/SOUND
PCI ATI RADEON 7000 32 meg DUAL DISPLAY
*2nd ATI RADEON 7000 32 meg dual display
2x60 gig MAXTOR RAID 0
40x BURNER
6x slot DVD
GENERIC CASE WITH A POWERMAX 432 watt POwer supply with dual fan

I should have pictures in by next week , GF took the DIGI cam to go sightseeing !! :mad:

Bonebox
if you want to email ....

harddrive109@hotmail.com
MSN MESSENGER IS THE SAME
ICQ is 17550529

Aemon_

03-17-2003, 06:08 PM

SWEEEEEET!!!!
yeah, please post pics when you get some!!

maybe write us a guide?

later man.

eviltechie

03-17-2003, 06:30 PM

yeah man
this is awesome!

bonebox

03-18-2003, 10:51 AM

i am writing all the technical info , how to , and pictures into a single document ... the model is for 1 LCD, if you want more ... just repeat :P

THe second card is finally in , and the 2 other screens are connected, had to re-write the dual display dirvers once again to allow the desktop to be split in 4 ... completed @ 5am EST.

Booted, on boot, got 4 POST screens :))) pretty wicked.
had the WINDOWS logo in the middle of the 4 .. :/ hope i'm not stuck with 4 desktops (or 2 when extended)

SSSSSSUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

The desktop is split evenly on all 4 screens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is f*cking awesome...... watched a movie ... was really amazing

I have a 12.1 inch TFT that my buddy came home with last nite , he doesn't need it .... does anybody need it ?

eviltechie

03-18-2003, 02:57 PM

eh?

thin borders eh?

awesome!

how long did it take u to mod it?

sneeze

03-19-2003, 12:21 AM

Bonebox if you're completely serious then you deserve some kind of freakin' medal. :cheers:

03-21-2003, 10:53 PM

That all sounds fanfuckintastic, I've been trying to do something like this for a looooonnng time. I'm just wondering what what the model numbers on the dell laptops and/or LCDs are.

Anyway, can't wait for the guide and pics.

bonebox

03-22-2003, 10:12 PM

Sorry for the late reply guys, the girlfriend dragged me to the cottage with her family (my in-laws) B-o-o-o-r-r-r-r-i-i-i-i-n-n-n-n-n-g-g-g-g-g

LOL

in any case,

I am completely serious, it's been working great except for one thing, like someone mentionned , the borders are not that thin (quarter inch each)
so i have a big half inch gap in the middle. It's not that bad when playing a game or what not or watching a movie but when reading a document or webpage(this one actually TEEHEE ;)

the screens that i used were common screens used by bell.

I'm currently trying to locate 4x16.1 inch screens used in the SONY grx570 laptops...

my friend and i will have a website up soon showing mine and his (the little f*cker got his hands on 4 mac wide screens of the powerbook G4) 17 inch 16:9 comp.

One thing i wanted to ask ... since i'm not comfortable trying it and risk frying my screens ...

DO YOU GUYS THINK IT WOULD BE SAFE TO RUN THEM ALL OFF THE SAME "AT" power supply ?

i have a 250 watt lying here ,,... in my opinion , 5 volts is 5 volts and 12volt is 12 volt :P

GIMME FEEDBACK GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!

03-24-2003, 01:15 AM

Is the power supply connected to the m/b and drives of your computer?

You may want to setup a separate p/s that would supply power to all the screens. 4 screens will not go near 250Watts, but together with the m/b and drives I'd be cautious...

m1ss_chief

03-24-2003, 10:13 AM

I think we are all waiting for the guide from bonebox.

Anyway, could you just post like _one picture_ (pref hundreds) of your modded dell screens to begin with.. :confused:

I am really getting anxious about this and I can't say that I am a sucker for this project until I see something that looks do-able.. :rolleyes:

Since noone has managed to do this without +$300 external controllers before.. it would be truly amazing to see this work! :nod:

G

chuckularone

03-25-2003, 01:20 PM

I've got my screwdiver, diagonal cutters, soldering iron and hammer ready! Let's see some pictures!

(The hammer (of course) is for when things go horribly wrong)

Aemon_

03-25-2003, 03:20 PM

I've got my screwdiver, diagonal cutters, soldering iron and hammer ready! Let's see some pictures!

(The hammer (of course) is for when things go horribly wrong)

thats what i'm talkin about. cant wait for the pics/guide!

later

cranialtyrant

03-27-2003, 08:30 PM

Does anyone know how you could take a laptop screen and use it as a screen in your car for a mobile dvd player? Impossible?

03-31-2003, 01:26 AM

I'm calling bullshit on bonebox. it's been over a week and he hasn't come back with a single pic, not to mention a "guide." How about simply the model numbers off the laptops or lcds? Nothing? don't jerk us around. If it can be done, I'd love to see it. If he has done it, I greatly appologise. I will most certainly eat crow. But come on man!

m1ss_chief

03-31-2003, 07:34 AM

i dunno.. i wrote and asked him how the guide was coming along.. these are the details i got...
_________________________________________________________

hi, it's almost all done ... PDF though.

The first things you are going to need is :

4x DVI-to-VGA adapters

i opted for the ATI RADEON 7500 64 meg DDR PCI.
got 2 of those.

once you have that , you will only be requiring 2 more things...

a sh*t load of patience :P and a good power supply, i recommend AT format since you can easily convert it.
_________________________________________________________

still not convinced.. we want PICTURES! model numbers of the screens that you say work... and soldering schemes...!

hÜñGãrïÄñ_bÄrßãrïÄñ

04-06-2003, 12:09 AM

I've always wanted to use my old Compaq laptop screen on my pc but would not know where to start.

I did a google search some time ago and found a very good LCD Tutorial that was posted in pc clubs forum http://www.pcclub.com/forum/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=2611 this is how its done, but the only hard part is the parts and how to find them cheap, to find a cheap converter board is like looking for a needle in a hay stack (I've been looking for some weeks now)

The Tutorial is quilt well written but does not go in to a lot of detail on parts and how to make/set up but it's a start (I've tried to contact the author but he has not replied its been 4 weeks) anyways how this helps.

04-09-2003, 11:01 PM

a haiku:

bullshit call I, yes
bullshit again on bonebox
he does not know shit

thank you.
in all seriousness, where is the proof my man? I think you might be a hack. Why would you tell everyone you know something you don't? trust me, it's not making you look any cooler.

Prove me wrong.

Aemon_

04-10-2003, 09:24 AM

just curious, guest, why dont you register?

later

phlost

04-12-2003, 05:42 PM

have no fear everyone, it's not about anonymity.

I just stumbled upon this forum one day, and I was excited by the original post, as I think we all are, from boner, ahem, I mean bonebox. I have two projects going, one in my living room, and one in my car, and I intend to use a flatscreen with touchpanel for both of them. They are both cool media-center/ entertainment box/ whatever you want to call them ideas, and the problem is that I don't want to spend 1500 bucks for 2 lcd's and 2 touchscreens (that will work under linux) from a place like ELO. one of my projects is a lot like www.dashpc.com (i'm using the dashpc software as well), so I'm probably not going to ever describe it in as much detail as that guy, but you should all check out the site cause it's definitely rad. so you can see where using a spare lcd or a cheap one would make me happy.

as for my home media center project, perhaps if anyone is interested I will describe it or something, but right now I'm in the process of upgrading it to use the MythTV software (www.mythtv.org), and I'm trying to figure out how to get my X10 voice activation to work with it, in a very limited way, like being able to say "tv on, channel 34." I already have voice activated lighting in my house, using the same hardware/software mix. However, I'd like to get a touchscreen lcd going that I could put behind the bar in my living room, so I can just hit that at parties/etc. when the music is loud and people talking make it hard for the x10 to pick up commands.

See, I am a programmer, so I like to hack code, and this is what I do in my spare time. My problem is that I don't know much about electricity/electrical engineering, so I was REALLY hoping for some help, but haven't found anything good yet.

I figured some good old fasioned prodding might do the trick when it comes to bonebox, but I'm pretty convinced that his tutorial or whatever won't materialize. of course, I'm not just trying to be a jerk, I would love to see it happen, and I would gladly admit that I was wrong about the whole thing.

Anyway, the only reason I didn't register is becuase I have so many damn forum/email/security/IM/hosting/you-name-it accounts, but I guess I can keep track of one more.

overall though, great forums!

vee_ess

04-13-2003, 12:55 PM

That Dash PC stuff is prety interesting. When I get my Volvo 850 HPT, I think I will definately work on a project similiar to that. It would be aweful tempting to play while driving though. I'll have to put something that will prevent me from doing that. I noticed that they use Linux only now, which I don't think I will do until gaming is improved on it. XP or 2000 are powerful enough for me. (Yes, that's a lie; nothing is powerful enough in my eyes)

phlost

04-13-2003, 02:29 PM

I agree with you in part. Windows is undoubtedly the better platform for gaming. After all, most games developed don't even give thought to being on non-windows platforms. Linux gurus will tell you that it's so much better, and you can just run Wine, www.winehq.org or something similar to get windows apps running on linux. I happen to disagree with that, becuase I have experience using all of the above software. For someone who doesn't have a LOT of background programming and using linux, wine is a daunting task to get working.

That being said, the reason I use linux is purely based on the ability to hack at the source and build something I want that isn't in there yet. For example, a mod like the auto-on/off setup that the dashpc guys, www.dashpc.com have would be somewhat more difficult to set up under windows, and probably much less reliable, based on how windows runs scheduled tasks.

anyway, I saw a whole other thread of linux vs. windows, so let's not get started on that here. besides, that's not what I'm saying at all. I say, use what works for you. It just happens that linux works for me.

your results may vary.

Jeming

05-21-2003, 01:45 AM

I have a old 486 Compaq LTE 5100 laptop computer that I removed the LCD from. I am wanting to use the LCD on my PC. I think this would be really awesome to pull off! I have heard it is possible with the proper tools and some great effort. I am wanting to learn how to do this to make my idea work.

Like I said I have a 10.4", SVGA, CTFT which was made in the 90's so obviously its a older LCD though still in superb condition. I do not understand the function of each cable coming from the LCD and would like to.

I thought it would be easy as cutting off the cable to a desktop monitor and wiring it to the LCD, then using a low power adaptor with adjustable power settings to acheive the proper power supply to the LCD... Though obviously its not that simple but I would like to learn how to get this project working.

05-25-2003, 02:03 PM

thanks but that's not what I (we) need. I need the pin layout for the connector that goes from the laptop lcd to laptop mobo/video card. The info you gave is good to have but not what's needed.

each laptop is different dumbass, you aren't going to find one wiring diagram for all laptops. get your multimeter out or find specific wiring diagrams for the laptop you have or are going to buy.

hint: dvi has analog pins--red blue etc.

Aemon_

05-26-2003, 01:46 AM

thank you for insulting a member, guest.

if you have somthing useful to contribute, please do, if not. shutup.

have a nice day.

EK03

05-26-2003, 10:31 PM

Hey guys, my sister broke her laptop. The mainboard was pretty damaged so i was thinking why not turn her LCD into another monitor or a TV? im a relativley new modder and wanted to know if there is a part in the laptop that can be modded to be a controller or anything that would help convert it. It was a 14" inspiron 1100. I dont have it in front of me at the moment so if im on to something please help me out :wavey:

best regards,
Evan

Homeguard

05-29-2003, 05:22 AM

how did bonebox do it? did he just bundle the color wires together and make it work or did he use a converter board to do it? anyone know?

Aemon_

05-29-2003, 09:48 AM

i'm not entirely sure that bonebox actually did this mod. he posted up promises of pictures, then never posted them, and he hasn't even posted anything since then.

later

alwaysbids100

05-29-2003, 04:27 PM

I am so looking forward to your howto on the lcd screen conversions. I have about 7 screens laying around and am looking around for what is the same size/specs for this project. Could you imagine a whole wasll of these suckers. We could put the LCD TV guys out of business. lol

Timmy

05-30-2003, 11:31 AM

Yes I've been thinking of doing this for a while and now that I really want to do it, it's been very discouraging...

I called and talked to a guy at ICP and he said that if your card supports DVI it would be easier. My question is this: If lcds are digital and DVI sends a digital signal then why couldn't you just take a DVI connector (like rip one off of a broken computer or maybe you could buy one) and wire it with the laptop cable and then plug it in directly?

Homeguard

05-31-2003, 04:38 AM

I finally contacted Bonebox on msn, this is the converstation: neal is me btw

SPAM says:
who r u ?
Neal says:
neal, are you boneback?
SPAM says:
bone box
Neal says:
err ya
Neal says:
hey i was wondering if you ever really got that laptop LCD to desktop LCD working?
Neal says:
and do you have any pics
SPAM says:
yes i did ... and the pics will be coming when i get my new camera ... girlfriend dropped my old one in 200ft of water
Neal says:
so you gonna post them on the form?
Neal says:
techwarelabs
SPAM says:
nope .. the official website is under construction
SPAM says:
the product is currently being sold with the instructions...
SPAM says:
selling the kit for 500$ US
Neal says:
is this a joke?
SPAM says:
no
SPAM says:
i cannot accomodate the current orders
SPAM says:
and the orders are only local
Neal says:
so your not going to tell the people on the forum that helpped you do this how to do it?
SPAM says:
i did not recieve help from the forum .. i posted one message to state that i was able to accomplish it using simple common computer items
SPAM says:
i currently have one person who is interested in purchasing reseller rights to the instruction manual
Neal says:
thats pretty lame
SPAM says:
ah well .. can't please everybody in this world
Neal says:
you could if you didnt sell out
SPAM says:
we live in a capitalist world ... why should i live like a communist and get robbed blind ?
Neal says:
so you got no help at all from the forum? i find that hard to believe
SPAM says:
call me a sell out all you want .. but i currently sell anywhere between 20-30 kits per week
Neal says:
where is this webpage you are selling them at?
SPAM says:
it was my first and only post ... i posted 1 or 2 replies but that's it .. haven't even been on since
Neal says:
or is it under construction
SPAM says:
please pay attention to our conversation and cease to ask already answered questions
Neal says:
you posted like 5 replies
Neal says:
ok well when you get this webpage make could you please tell me
Neal says:
i would like to check it out
SPAM says:
well what purpose would it serve to a person that calls me a sell out ...
Neal says:
nm
Neal says:
good day sir
SPAM says:
ah the dismissal of the failed mind
SPAM says:
always a classic
SPAM says:
but in answer to your question about why should i sell it ... i have spent well over 1000 hours working on the info sheets that include all the LCD manufacturer settings including pinouts, color codes, connector recs,

as you can see, he is full of more shit or is only in this topic for money. personally i think he is full of shit with his clames of 20 buiers and stuff.

Homeguard

05-31-2003, 04:39 AM

also he has no name on msn, it is like a space or something so it is a bit retarded.

GBRRICCI

05-31-2003, 07:01 PM

HAHA why not just buy a LCD or CRT screen?

I would rather buy my own LCD or CRT monitor for $500, would be much better than to buy instructions.

Marine

06-01-2003, 09:02 AM

man i can't believe this thread is still going. such a simple one too.lol wow.

Aemon_

06-01-2003, 12:03 PM

HAHA why not just buy a LCD or CRT screen?
i started this thread because i wanted a screen for a car mp3 system.

man i can't believe this thread is still going. such a simple one too.lol wow.
i know, i started this thread over a year ago. it was like my 2nd post when the forum was still called NetSmog. anyway, thanks to all who have helped/tried to help.

later

GBRRICCI

06-01-2003, 12:36 PM

no i mean the guy that wants to charge $500 bucks for the instructions.

m1ss_chief

06-04-2003, 08:15 AM

bonebox is dismising his chance of becoming a legend... if he would want to prove himself that he actually has been able to do it he could at least show us a pic of his desktop hooked up to one/more laptop lcds, i am sure that won't give away the secrets, but make this whole thing a bit more trustworthy..

anyway.. i don't believe it until i can see it in pictures..

and yes.. bonebox your woman seems more trouble than anything else..

screw her a few times (she better be good at that if anything :o ) and then dump her,. and then dump the pictures here..

have a good day..

thanks..

G

Marine

06-04-2003, 08:43 AM

is that all you is use them? thank god i love my girl.

Netlogic

06-04-2003, 12:52 PM

A simple call the manufacter can get you what you want. I had a LCD out of a Compaq that was made by some one else. I simply called that company and they fax me the diagram.

vee_ess

06-04-2003, 02:00 PM

hmm... That sounds too easy. We need a challenge.

Keefe

06-04-2003, 02:05 PM

EK03

06-04-2003, 02:16 PM

now i have another question which probably relates to those who have busted laptops lying around. My sisters has the controller/video card in a little extra piece of hardware that plugs into the mainboard, id love to know if i can mod that so i can use the LCD as a monitor.

Fence

06-10-2003, 04:16 PM

Dude, you rock. I take back all the condescending things I ever said about Canadians. You have to write out a guide... This is how you achieve web FAME, my friend. Looking forward to your tech. info;
Fence 8)

Fence

06-10-2003, 04:29 PM

please disregard my previous post, I wrote it before i read the complete thread. Bonehead or whatever his name is needs to wake up and realize what CAPITALISM is. No one is going to pay $500 canadian or american to buy instructions when it is cheaper to buy an flat panel the normal way.
BONY-- you could be a legend, man dont be a d*ck.

Gordie

06-11-2003, 10:45 AM

I found this...may help someone:
http://www.geocities.com/p9019/lcdpanel

CiKoTiC

06-11-2003, 01:30 PM

Check these links out.

http://www.earthlcd.com/
http://www.aurora.se/controllers.htm
http://www.lcd-screen-repair.netfirms.com/

vee_ess

06-13-2003, 05:26 PM

I'm thinking that it would be pretty nice to have one of the 6 to 8 inch touchscreen LCDs to put on the front of a computer as a second (or third) display showing system performance and statistics.

Ryon

06-14-2003, 03:42 AM

found this on the net, no contact info though

vee_ess

06-14-2003, 02:35 PM

That's an awesome background idea!

guest

06-15-2003, 11:28 PM

stumbled onto someone selling lcd conversion kits on ebay. He had a link to all the schematics and pics of how it connects. Thought you all might find it interesting.

http://shrider.net/ebay/pictures_of_the_lmm104.html

Arcticcat

06-16-2003, 05:03 PM

Just stumbled across this forum today..... :)

And to find a year old thread with just what i'm lookin' for [ whats the chance of that happening? ]

Anyhooo.... I got a HP 14" lcd panel stripped outa a 2 yr. old laptop.
And i mean stripped...... no shell - no inverter - nuttin' !!!

The panel is intact with just the metal band holding the guts together.
There are [2] plugs coming out that appear to be (a) LCD data cable and (b) bulb cable from the actual LCD display.

MADE BY : CHUNGHWA
Model number #CLAA141XC01

I'd like to use this as an extended desktop . I have a ATI9700 AIW GPU
and has the extended desktop settings.

"the question" ....... who's the main source for controllers i could use for this panel ?? Since i don't have the inverter , is that gonna be a problem ??

Obviously i'm no tronic techie...... so be gentle....... :)

Guest

06-25-2003, 05:35 AM

If you haven't got an inverter, nothing is going to work for you.
LCD = Digital
PC monitor = Analogue
Read more of the thread.

dashpc.com

06-25-2003, 11:06 PM

Hey guys, I saw that this post mentioned my site, and I figured I'd share some insight...

Most of the newer LCDs can be used with video adapter cards. I don't mean standard VGA cards, but cards that are designed for LCDs. There are PCI -> LCD cards, and there are also Analog -> LCD cards. The Analog cards act as "Loopback" style converters for LCDs. The PCI cards, however, just plug into the PCI slot (duh!) and feature a connector that you can connect to a [RECENT!] barebones LCD. If you have an old 1996 black and white 16 color greyscale pseudo-vga LCD, don't expect to have a lot of success with one of these adapters. However, if your sister just killed the mainboard of your new notebook, and the LCD isn't cracked, shattered, or otherwise tainted; you've got some options. The controller cards aren't exactly cheap, but they're much more afforable than LCDs at around $150 per card. An LCD/controller card combo will likely cost 600-1,000+ so when I say that you have options, I mean you have a more affordable option.

I'm not a member of this site (yet), but in the interim, feel free to fire questions over to me at: cbergeron@dashpc.com (site: www.dashpc.com)

Cheers,
CB

EK03

06-26-2003, 12:08 AM

ha, sounds good, know any stores to buy these PCI adapters?

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Timmy

06-27-2003, 11:57 AM

How can I get Bonebox's msn e-mail?

Thanks :confused:

Chesha

06-27-2003, 05:15 PM

its on, like, page 7 of this topic

BONEBOX

07-06-2003, 09:57 AM

just read up on the thread . :rolleyes:

You guys are pathetic(only the ones that showed so much impatience that they had to verbally bring me down)

AND BY THE WAY
i never said 500 for the instructions(READ CAREFULLY GUYS as I'M SAYING IT AGAIN)

WAS SELLING THE KITS FOR 500$

now the kits include a more common card since the 7500 showed stability problems in using the custom drivers

the 7000 is more reliable(not as powerful HENCE THE PRICE DROP)

the kits are selling great and you guys really fucked it up for others on this forum ... as this is my last entry. all you flammers can go to hell.

if you want a kit , come to my door in Gatineau Quebec to buy one. if not ... please by all means add me to your MSN and flame away ...

the website will not be going online due to investers interests and patent agreements.

the offline version of the website is currently on a CD ROM in my office where it shall remain.

the company interested in purchasing the patent will be releasing a product design and you can be sure that they will charge more than 219$

As for capitalism ... We live in a capitalist world you have 2 choices ... accept it and try to get rich or DON"T .. which ever one u choose, i could not care less but capitalism has allowed me to make money to pay for my parents 30 year anniversary ... a BOAT and a nice one too!!!!!!!!!!

CHEERS AND FAREWELL
LIVE LONG AND PROSPER
GET RICH WITH CAPITALISM
LAPIDATERS GET LAPIDATED.

eviltechie

07-06-2003, 04:08 PM

everyone just chill

07-06-2003, 11:48 PM

everyone just chill
hes back, and to tell you the truth if i was in his possision and saw a gigantic list of bad comments about me i wouldnt help them out. Just leave bonebox out of it, forum topics been around for like a year and hell it will be two until we find a way to use these LCDs.

peace out bonebox.

vee_ess

07-07-2003, 07:44 PM

What I'd like to know is where Bonebox gets his customers because these kits have been there for a while, and for much cheaper. Also they are not made in someones home, but a factory.

07-16-2003, 03:51 PM

Im not going to bother registering, its not necessary. But you all are gullible. Bonebox is full of crap, don't believe a word he says. Can you not tell he is just pulling ur chain? Every time you try to get details or a pic of what he has done he makes some excuse. You are all dumber for seeing any truth in what this person says. He never made the box, its bs! Otherwise you would see these mods all over the net if its as easy as he said it was. Go back and read his posts and think about how easy it would be to come up with the crap he said. Oh yeah 4 LCD's stretched accross the screen, gimme a break.

Aemon_

07-16-2003, 04:01 PM

vee_ess

07-17-2003, 05:19 PM

Also, have we not been saying that BoneBox is full of it and that he has done nothing, or has my foreign heritage led me astray from the comprehension of my native language?

I'm starting to think we should design the U.S. economy like the Canadian model, because evidently you can get a business running for a very out-of-demand product to sell like crazy despite an outrageous price in a matter of weeks!

jcasterline

07-30-2003, 01:23 AM

I have spent alot of time hacking the IOpener machines. maybe someone can use this as an approach to putting another display on your machine. You could look for a way to network it to your Big Rig, and let it recieve images over Network(TCP/IP). find a way to access the display using a serial interface. I'm sure someone can find or write a low level driver that can send something to the IOpener to display. I have hacked mine with a 10Gig harddrive and a CD ROM. I use it to play MP3's, and it works fine. You can get an Iopener on EBay really cheap. I payed more to get mine shipped, than I payed for the unit itself. the only real disadvantage for the IOpener, is that the screen gets snowy when alot of movement is displayed on the screen, but that is just because it is an older type lcd.
Someone should take apart one of those lcd desktop displays(one that is broken) and see if your laptop screen will plug into its controller.

I wish you all luck.

James

08-11-2003, 04:35 PM

power a laptop screen?

08-19-2003, 03:59 PM

i know this has been mentioned before.....but DVI is digital...thats what a lot market LCD's are connected to anyways... why can't you just wire one up for that... then the whole VGA thing is tossed away...and you just have to find a way to rewire 44 pins to a 24 pin port... (dont think i helped matters at all.) anyone willing to "brute force" the wiring ? that would take SOME time but it would work eventually LOL

ndflicks

08-31-2003, 05:19 AM

I wonder, after reading this from the beginning, would it make sense to use a video card with an output for an LCD monitor?? They aren't terribly expensive, especially if you use eBay, and it would be digital already, so no need for conversion from analog signals. I can't imagine it's as simple as connecting the appropriate digital out from the video card to the corresponding pins on the raw LCD display, but maybe with an inverter board(which, honestly, I don't know what it is, LOL) it could be done. Also, what was the conclusion on the pins on the video cards? The ones that resemble a 20 pin version of a floppy or IDE connections? Are they for connection to a video source? Analog or digital? Maybe it's worth pursuing, IT MUST BE POSSIBLE TO USE A LAPTOP'S LCD SCREEN ON MY PC WITHIN A REASONABLE BUDGET!!! I have appreciated reading all of the posts, good luck to you all...

09-01-2003, 10:44 AM

after reading all of the topic I feel that i am tempted to buy a cheap laptop screen and destroy it :lol: but if i accidentaly get this thing to work how do you actually power the thing up??? is there a pin set you need to touch a screwdriver to or something??

Thanks people.

09-04-2003, 05:51 AM

you guys are kidding yourselves......hahahahahahaha
anyway
the thing is you can't use an lcd panel on a vga or dvi signal
those are analog, lcd is digital in that it requires a whole bunch of signals to power up one line of pixels.
to do this you must have a converter board which takes the vga signal and digitizes it
however as there is no clear standard to lcd panel technology the converter board MUST be compatible with the panel. These boards are a waste of money as you might as well buy a 15 incher lcd for the cost
LCD screen cost so much because of the boards you see, analog to digital, only cheaper than if you buy separate because of the economies of scale.

10-07-2003, 04:23 AM

heres a novil idea, after reading this topis from start to finish.
you know how sony brought out the little ps1
well, there are also these cool attachments that are LCD screens.
they are cheap to pick up second hand, PAL/NTSC even speakers, volume control, brightness, contrast.. there are models that arnt sony, so they are cheaper.... a psi works on AV out (RCA) y not get a dirt cheap agp card, or simila, that has av out, only has to be 4 or 8mb, not like it has to be high res for games....
they run of 7v or 7.5.. i forget.
these would be wicked for it, most are apx 5"
!!!

y not
if there are still people reading this thread, i think it is a good idea for all the lcd mods, its not quite the laptop lcd idea, but maby you can hook a bigger lcd up to it?? i don tknow, no techy on that side of things.

Laterz
VITA
Eccentric PC

Devilizzy

10-11-2003, 03:36 PM

I found a software utility Maxivista which allows you to use a laptop as an additional display of your main work horse.

Available at http://www.maxivista.com

Devilizzy

expert01

10-14-2003, 11:08 PM

Hmm... lemme see... DVI=DIGITAL VIDEO INTERFACE/IMAGING

Come on, buy any laptop that has a DVI interface and you should be able to rewire it. I just sent a request to Hitachi about my LCD screen.

I have an old Hitachi LMG9400XUCC LCD screen. It has a 40 pin connector and a 3 pin connector. I assume the 3-pin is for some sort of power supply. The 40 pin is obviously data.

The 40 pin cable has 9 wires missing from it, which instantly cuts down the number of wires to 31. Imagine how many of those must be grounds and power, and you are left with few wires.

http://www.nti1.com/technote.html#dvi

DVI only has 1 ground and 1 power. Should not be that hard to rewire a plug. Don't need any VGA to DVI connector, just buy a DVI extension cable and slice the wires or something. I am going to after I get a reply from the manufacturer.

koshy

10-18-2003, 02:16 AM

I am going to work on this to connect a desktop to a lcd if it work i will surely tell you

11-18-2003, 04:02 AM

I have a compaq persario that has the lcd connector on the back of the case. I know this is built onto the main board, Would this help into rigging up a laptop lcd display?

vee_ess

02-28-2004, 04:00 PM

That's for a second display or to use an external display instead, I believe.

1967tempest

03-11-2004, 10:45 AM

Well I am NEW so dont hammer me like BoneBox. >:) But IS there a Step-by-step instruction guide to ataining this goal??? I admit ihavent read ALL of the posts in this topic. I also want to get this done. For anumber of reasons. MP3 box, kitchen computer flip down screen. DVD plaver in car,etc... :firedevil:

I havent seen any real websites that offer this. Also we are IN 2004 now. doesnt this seem like an easy project nowadays, with technology is now?

Any info is going to help out :o

Aemon_

03-11-2004, 10:54 AM

yeah, i'd still like to do this one day, but for now i've all but forgotten this idea. i dont know enough about electronics and stuff to figure this out on my own.

one day maybe i will. thanks for reading though.

eviltechie

03-11-2004, 02:35 PM

i broke my laptop's LCD last month
i might take it apart and start experimenting with it
maybe ill post some pics if i do decide to start taking it apart

vee_ess

03-17-2004, 12:14 AM

doesnt this seem like an easy project nowadays, with technology is now?

It probably is considering all the LCD and conversion equipment going with because of the amount of flat panel displays that are on the market now, however this thread was created before they became so common (2 years old). As for a guide, it would depend on what display you are trying to connect to, but you would basically just need to connect it to a controller and ADC for most of the different options.

Sea_Shadow

04-07-2004, 12:20 AM

I HAVE SEEN IT DONE WITH A PSone SCREEN!!!!
Greatest use of the screen I have ever seen.
You use a VGA interface too. It is really easy to do, someone stopped by the bit-tech forums and told about it. Unlike some people we know this guy really does know how to do it, and he has pics to back it up. He requested that you visit his site and just link to the guide there. It is awesome and I am going to do it in a month or two after I finish up some of my current mods.

http://www.kickassamd.com
He just set up the site and it has had some tech difficulties so it may be up and down.
If it is down just email me and I will go dig up some pictures from the other forums.

StinkyMojo

04-07-2004, 10:50 AM

I HAVE SEEN IT DONE WITH A PSone SCREEN!!!!

Ok, this has just grabbed my attention..

Aemon_

04-07-2004, 11:33 AM

swweeeet. here is the link to the article:
http://www.kickassamd.com/modules/mods/article.php?storyid=1

finally, a good answer to my first post on NetSmog. wow, that was a while ago huh?

thanks alot, maybe when i get a new job and some cash i'll start work on my dream again.

thanks again man!

StinkyMojo

04-07-2004, 03:16 PM

Thanks Aemon for the direct link.. makes it easier ;)

Aemon_

04-07-2004, 03:22 PM

no prob man.

eviltechie

04-14-2004, 11:01 PM

just read this on slashdot

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/04/04/15/0028257.shtml?tid=137

maybe if TWL organizes the info on this thread and makes it into a short article, it can get on slashdot and bring in millions of readers!

Jason425

04-15-2004, 12:18 AM

dead link

eviltechie

04-15-2004, 01:23 PM

its not dead
it works fine for me just now
its slashdot, how can it be dead?

Jason425

04-15-2004, 02:57 PM

works now.. before it was 404...

verme

04-21-2004, 04:08 AM

another way to achieve our goals it can be the emulation of image processing chips and the tunneling through usb or other ports of the signal that was emitted from our emulator!!! (I think it would be possible, I didn' t ever tried to do it)

jjshnabadu

04-21-2004, 12:42 PM

I have stumbled upon a solution that I will be implementing in the next week or so. I found what Samsung calls a "System on Panel" on Ebay and just won the bidding for $165. I know that's a little pricey for a project, but it's super cheap for a brand new 15" Samsung LCD, and cheaper even than an LCD controller card. It is manufactured for industrial applications like kiosks.

Specs are as follows:

Model Number: LTM150XI-A01
Screen Size: 15" Diagonal
Resolution: 1024X768 @ 75Hz
Dimensoins: 10 X 13 X .71 (roughly --- and yes, that's less than 3/4 inch thick)
Pixel Pitch: .297
Contrast Ratio: 300:1
Brightness: 250 cd/m2
Weight: 4 lbs. (a little heavy, but I can handle it)
Interface: VGA (Analog RGB)
Power Source: +9 VDC to +12VDC (12 VDC @ 2.3 amp)

This unit includes built in LCD controller, backlight inverter, analog to digital converter and OSD controls. Because it is so thin, I am planning to install it in the side of my case, flush with the surface. The only issue I will have to address is cooling. I have plenty of fans though, so we'll see how it goes. Other than that, it's entirely Plug and Play. You can see the official info from Samsung at:

http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/TFTLCD/Monitors_n_Industrial/LTM150XI/LTM150XI.htm

or for PDF spec sheets:

http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/TFTLCD/Monitors_n_Industrial/LTM150XI/ltm150xi-a01_new.pdf

I will get this project going as soon as the unit arrives. Again, $165 is kind of a lot for a computer mod, but for a brand new Samsung SmartPanel that retails for about $400, it's not too bad. I'm excited because this is the culmination of several weeks of research.

Cheers, all

Richard

Jason425

04-21-2004, 07:56 PM

that's an awesome idea

Dreamy

04-28-2004, 04:37 AM

So if i'm reading this all correctly, i cant just rewire the lcd screen straight to the digitial lcd out on my video card?

jjshnabadu

05-08-2004, 09:47 PM

OK,

Here are the photos of the final project:

Photo 1 -- I took a picture of the inside of my case and made it the desktop of the LCD to look like a window. Cheesey, but clever, eh?

Photo 2 -- Good old Linux desktop...

Photo 3 -- The whole computer at an angle.

To protect the screen, I cut out a piece of 1/8 inch plexiglass on my table saw. Then I taped off the center portion on the back side and painted the perimeter black. If I were to do this all over again, I would have masking-taped my case so as to prevent the nasty scratches I inflicted on the case while cutting out the opening. I also would have waited to get my case nippers back from my friend instead of using my dremel's cut-off wheel --- but what can I say, I wanted to get it done. Anyway, There it is...

Cheers all,

Richard

jjshnabadu

05-08-2004, 09:49 PM

PS -- Notice the LAN Handle on the top (handicapped safety grab bar) for easy toting to LAN parties...Fun, fun, fun...

Jason425

05-08-2004, 10:35 PM

that's awesome.. I don't understand that last pic.. is it just a picture on the monitor?

jjshnabadu

05-13-2004, 11:23 PM

Yeah, the last pic shows a photo I took of my computer's guts as the desktop of the LCD monitor (see the description of Photo #1 --- I didn't realize that the attached photos would be in reverse order). After I had cut out the side of my case, but before I installed the LCD, I took a picture of the side of my computer with my digital camera. Then I cropped it in photoshop to just what was visible through the cutout and resized the image to 1024 x 768. That makes the image actual size when set as the desktop of the LCD. Like I said, the "window' desktop is cheesey, but I couldn't resist...

Jason425

05-14-2004, 01:18 AM

heh yea it's cheesy but funny

djivesp

05-17-2004, 04:52 PM

Looks like our prayers have been answered !
Look at the price though....

http://store.earthlcd.com/s.nl/c.318770/sc.7/category.99/.f

and its only 640 x 480 :/

Someone just needs to get that circuit diagram and lets get the soldering irons out :biggrin: !!!!

vee_ess

06-01-2004, 03:27 AM

I smell a summer project coming up! I found this (http://www.eio.com/sage.htm), another controller kit, which might help.

MrBob

06-11-2004, 04:26 PM

Hi all - I was looking through this thread, some of the ideas are amazing! But most are too expensive for the like of my pocket :(

I have a butchered monitor from an OLD laptop and i found this card on ebay (see link) Seller claims that it will go in AGP slot and run a TFT/LCD type screen without any other gear.

http://www.dotronic.com/displaysolutions/en/endotcard690.html
Has anyone seen one of these yet? does it work?

Neko

06-12-2004, 06:06 PM

this card seems to sux.... agp 1X, low memory... >:)

I keep a 1600X1200 dell 15" and still hopping to find a way to convert it to a DVI (or vga) plug for a couple of bucks.

brandon2087

06-13-2004, 01:12 PM

so has anyone figured out how to connect the LCD TFT screen to your gaming console not throught the coaxial cable but through the RCA cable?

MrBob

06-13-2004, 02:37 PM

I know the card itself sukks! but if it works there may be others like it that perform better :).

Still I'll be happy spending £10 for this on ebay, rather than $200+ for a LCD controller board.

I kinda expecting this to be a waste of £10 tho!

Should be arriving on Tuesday, so I'll let you know if it works or not!

brandon2087

06-18-2004, 04:36 PM

These are from the laptops itself but will they work if you want to try and connect a LCD to your pc or gaming console?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42188&item=3487264018&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42187&item=3487972175&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

Haro

06-22-2004, 03:53 PM

Last night I tore apart my laptop LCD to replace the backlight. First thing I said to myself was "Damn this thing looks sexy when it's out of it's bulky casing". Now, it just so happens that I have an xbox-in-car project going on. I already purchased an el-cheapo 6.5" LCD package from wal-mart (was ~$200 iirc), It comes with 2x6.5" LCDs and a DVD base unit. The DVD unit can take RCA input.

Here is what I was thinking. My existing 6.5" LCDs would also need a controller to take the RCA input -- the DVD unit obviously provides this conversion. So instead of buying a seperate controller board for my 14" LCD from my laptop, I was thinking it may be possible to splice into the existing board inside the DVD unit. VGA to RCA is easy to do also.

Now I know most of you are just looking for VGA -> TFT LCD cheap, but this may be a good solution for all you computer-in-car people.

If my thoughts are correct, I could have 3 LCDs and a DVD player for about $200 (cost of DVD + 2x LCD package).

I'll post more as I look into if anyone is interested.

dominocus

07-01-2004, 03:53 PM

I just took apart my laptop to clean it out, and because I was curious. I have had it for about 3 to 4 years now, and I never had the right tools on me to do the job. I loved it. Anyhow, I am thinking of building a bare-bones desktop with a good graphics card, and whatever spare parts I can strip from my compaq presario laptop. After doing some research, like you all did, I am very surprised at the results. I was expecting it to be easier. Almost every post on other forums, all over the internet states that it is near impossible to do. Anyway, I was wondering if those controllers would work for just a regular LCD screen from a fairly new laptop. Do you all think it is worth it?

Ras Qulec

07-10-2004, 04:26 PM

Has anyone tried the feature connector? It is a digital out, although I think it is limited in color and resolution.

carl_cdk

07-11-2004, 03:29 PM

hi all

im currently working as a contracter for asda who are getting rid of a load of old IT stock... which is always good...

what i found though i couldnt belive.. a load of kiosks....

these systems are only AMD k62 266's ,touch screen and an LCD screen (which has a 44 pin - pin header TTL connection) ,intergrated into the box... ect.. and there selling them for £85... so i bought one hoping i could modd it and use as a pc conrol system, see pics.... the problem i seem to have is that the graphics card is only a 1mb chips and technologies 65550 card and cant run video ect.. i have looked every where for a better card but couldn't find one .. my question is can i use an old 3dfx 3 card i have with the 44 pin connection ... ive read through this thread and it sounds as if i cant ADC issues...ect... is there any convertors i can look into ect..

and information would be gratfull thanks....

ps heres the pics, ive left a cup at the side as refrence to its size...

carl_cdk

07-14-2004, 03:54 PM

just to update if anyones at all interested any more...

i talked to earthlcd today ...and they said that to upgrade to lcd you need an analog controller with a custom cable designed for the lcd screen tto connect to the card.. then a pass through connecter can go to say a geforce fx card(or whatever) to give it a bit of oommph... so i can play games on it... not sure if thats just a load of old bollocks .. what do u people think.. is this info right????

cheers.

yellowpatrol

07-19-2004, 12:52 AM

Question:
I would like to remain cheap. I don't want to purchase a new screen. I already have one I took off my old laptop. I've been reading through this and I have seen people do it with PSONE screens and screens made specificly for this, but not with an actual laptop screen. Maybe I missed something, I skimmed through alot, but could someone advise me? I have a laptop screen that has two little loops on both sides, and a 38 pin female connector. I'm assuming the 38 pin connector is for video input (duh) and the two loops are possibly power? I have an Nvidia Gforce FX 5600 Ultra graphics card with a VGA out, S-Video out, and a DVI out. What do I need to do to hook up the LCD screen so it will display a separate image such as a specified picture?

Aemon_

07-19-2004, 08:49 AM

i kinda lost this project by the wayside, but it appears that if you want to use a laptop display with a pc, you need to get a pci lcd controler card. they have them at earthlcd. i cant tell you how much they cost, because i havent looked into it in a while.

if you get it workin though, let us know! and good luck!

later

Turdmoe

08-06-2004, 02:28 PM

I have a laptop screen pulled from an old toshiba something cdx and it has the lcd contoller it looks like on the back of the screen. the inputs are a 20 pin video input and a 2 pin power input. i want to see if anyone knows what to do before i try on my own

eviljim

08-20-2004, 04:58 PM

since some of the major video card companies make laptop video chipsets, would i be wrong in my assumption that you could just pull the video converter off of the laptop motherboard? i mean, if a desktop ATI card has to convert then a laptop ATI card would as well right? and like one of the other posters here, i have pulled apart an old laptop and noticed the plugin where the ribbon cable from the LCD connects.

btw - i think this is the longest running thread i've ever seen .... EVER :)

Jason425

08-20-2004, 05:02 PM

there are FAR longer here.. but most of them don't have this much content..

keukpa

08-23-2004, 09:34 PM

OK, I'm on to this project. I think I have gathered all the necessary information and am about to comence construction. I will let you all know how it goes.

However it must be said that in order to do this convertion you NEED the Wiring / Schematic diagram or a nice Digital Oscilliscope.

I'll report back soon.

Keukpa

Aemon_

08-24-2004, 10:55 AM

good luck - and hope it works out!

eviltechie

08-25-2004, 12:36 AM

yeah tell us how it goes and what parts you are using

keukpa

08-25-2004, 04:23 PM

OK, well I have collected ALL the components that I need. Including a sexy 15" DELL 1600x1200 TFT Laptop Screen.

All in all the total cost of the components was approximately £35

The only difficulty I'm having is getting the correct Data Sheet for the screen but I think I've found a source for it.

This is actually more straight forward than I first thought.

So I should have it all up and running within about 1 - 2 weeks. Once I've got it all working I'll put up a website with step-by-step instructions and post the link here.

Have fun all.

Cheers,

Keukpa

Aemon_

08-25-2004, 04:34 PM

i wait eagerly for your results.

later

Jason425

08-25-2004, 04:39 PM

gg with the doubles later's.. :/

Aemon_

08-26-2004, 09:25 AM

gg? yeah, i forgot i put it in my sig.

keukpa

10-07-2004, 07:22 PM

Hi all, sorry for the LONG LONG delay, but I've been in San Diego for the past 6 weeks.

Anyways,

I've managed to do what we've all been wanting to do, and it cost me under £100 (£80 to be precise) so I'm just finishing the web details and will post the URL here in a week or two.

Have fun and keep playing....

Keukpa

Jason425

10-07-2004, 07:23 PM

cool beans mate!

Aemon_

10-08-2004, 08:44 AM

wow, good job keukpa! look forward to your pics and stuff!

thanks!

deadmeat

10-09-2004, 10:59 PM

howdiy ppl, i want to do just wat i think it was frank wanted multimedia pc and lcd look bit better than crt especialy in the car. anyways lcd is digital so cant u use the dvi on vid card cant u just hook the lcd straight to the dvi with the right wiring config mabie oh and that expencive part the inverter or wat eva isnt that in the laptop if i bought a sh*t one just cause i saw it done with a ps1 u no the one with the built in screen and they used somthin off the board and just wired it to the vga and away she went just had to config the pixels or some sh*t cause the screen is small but yeah thats y i ask bout an old laptop working same way

Aemon_

10-10-2004, 11:29 PM

woah. first off, it was me who wanted this car pc. second, punctuate dude.

ok, i think the whole dvi interface has already been discussed and deemed that you cannot just wire the lcd to the dvi interface. i'm not an electrician, or claim to know why it won't work. i just want a car pc one day.

yeah, i've seen the PSONE screen thing before, its still pretty cool though, even if it is small.

thanks for the intrest though man, and thanks for contributing to the thread!

deadmeat

10-11-2004, 04:11 AM

http://www.pcclub.com/forum/arcmessageview.cfm?catid=28&threadid=2611

http://www.forumplanet.com/planethardware/topic.asp?fid=3710&tid=1467022

Sea_Shadow

10-20-2004, 10:15 PM

Alright I have decided to stop buy and see what progress has been made in this thread, and to share what I have learned.
Ok simply put it is possible but will cost you lots of money. LCD in laptop recieve their data via a DIGITAL signal, and no you cant just wire it up to a DVI port. You must either create or buy a converter board that will take an analog signal and turn it into a full on digital signal that the LCD can interpret. Regarding the claims that there are RGB leads on the LCD... so far every claim I have come across has been a phoney. The only way you can use an LCD screen from a laptop is if you can work out a way to send a digital signal to it. You can hook up LCD monitors as they already have a controller on them (hence why you use a 15 pin d-sub connector). You can just buy a controller from some website but finding one at a decent price and quality is near impossible. It would be cheaper and easier to use an LCD monitor.

Bob_Almighty

11-13-2004, 04:24 AM

All right now i know that i am a tad late to join in on the fray but i did have just one question that i hope someone could answer.

I was thinking that if you could find out what each pin does on the LCD from the laptop you could just wire it directly to an Adapter (DB-25 or DVI, probably DVI) and plug it in. Now i realize that wont work right off but hear me out. Couldnt you get a hold of the device driver code and potentially rewrite the the device to handle the different pin config. Now i know that rewriting a display driver wouldnt be a walk in the park but i have quite a bit of free time and a huge interest in keep boards and circutry and power to a minimum so ANY beam of hope in the minimalist style is good enough for me. I know it will take time to do and is impractical but if it is plausible i would like to pursue it further. If ANYONE can help i would appreciate it.

eviltechie

11-13-2004, 01:26 PM

callmegeek

11-15-2004, 03:15 PM

I've also been trying to figure this out and just spen the last hour going through all these posts :biggrin: Here is a website i've found that i didn't see posted here...

http://a26.lambo.student.liu.se/?section=hard&project=vgalcd

callmegeek

11-15-2004, 04:08 PM

LTM150XI

Where can I find this and not have to purchase 1000 of them? lol... I found a few places that sell them but you have to buy in bulk. They are about $180 a piece but I only want 1... okay maybe 2 or 3... but not 1000!

Alucard13601

11-16-2004, 10:35 PM

Well, I am ganna start a project. Ill be posting Pics of the stuff i already have.

Alucard13601

11-16-2004, 11:03 PM

I got a AA11SB6C LCD screen. I am looking for a Converter board if anyone could link me to a cheap one. Thanks.

OmLounge

12-26-2004, 11:22 PM

Hey what's up. A while ago I took off two laptop screens from some old laptops i found and wanted to hoook them up to my desktop.

What is a controller? Would I have one in an old laptop?

Thanks

ryanmodderm

01-31-2005, 08:14 PM

:dance: Ihave been working on this Mod for almost 4 months late nights tearing apart 5 Laptops to see that none of :dance: them have the same connection so what am I to do , well i tell you what my only other :dance: feasible option that i haven't even :dance: seen thought of Before is to look at it another way. if you can't add a LCD to your computer why not try and add a laptop. :dance: WAIT before you skip over THIS
:dance: I Don't Mean put a cable from PC to Laptop but I mean Why not place the whole thing on the inside of a medium to large :dance: size case and see if there is a way to connect it internaly so that you have all the connections up and running are ably to:dance: leave the ports accesible and able to share info. there must be a way to adapt one MOBO or the other to accept at least:dance: some data. i am currently working on this still and i don't think that i will be able to move on to any other mod until i finish:dance: this one way or the hammer LOL :nod: well i'll keep you posted let me know if you have any ideas.

ryanmodderm

02-01-2005, 11:24 PM

I recently created a yahoo Group called Case Mods please join or post or let other people know so that we can have a group on yahoo that actuall is about case modding i went to the other case modders groups and they were all a bunch of spammers. i hate spem so i made my own.

please help me get the word out so that this can become a good place to get help or parts or help others thanks

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/casemods/join
:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Dragon

02-13-2005, 02:03 PM

i just acquired an LCD from a dell 2650 today, and am gonna hopefully figure this out. so far as i can tell i may need to rewire the ribbon from the LCD, BUT im gonna need to convert the signal to analog. fortunately for me the graphics card was a seperate unit (dunno if thats normal or not) an i got the too. is there poosibly a PCI card that will handle the connector directly from the LCD, or possibly from the Video Card/Chip in the Laptop? heres what im workin with:

vee_ess

02-13-2005, 02:53 PM

The 2650 came with 2 screens (both made by LG/Phillips), a 14.1" (LP141X8) and a 15.0" (LP150X2 or LP150X04). I'm trying to find pin assignments for those screens (they use an LVDS 1 port interface).

Here are the pin assignments for the DVI interface:
1 T.M.D.S. Data2-..............9 T.M.D.S. Data1-..................17 T.M.D.S. Data0-
2 T.M.D.S. Data2+.............10 T.M.D.S. Data1+...............18 T.M.D.S. Data0+
3 T.M.D.S. Data2/4 Shield.11 T.M.D.S. Data1/3 Shield....19 T.M.D.S. Data0/5 Shield
4 T.M.D.S. Data4-..............12 T.M.D.S. Data3-.................20 T.M.D.S. Data5-
5 T.M.D.S. Data4+.............13 T.M.D.S. Data3+...............21 T.M.D.S. Data5+
6 DDC Clock......................14 +5V Power........................22 T.M.D.S. Clock Shield
7 DDC Data.......................15 Ground(return for +5V, HSync, and VSync)23 T.M.D.S. Clock+
8 Analog Vertical Sync.......16 Hot Plug Detect................24 T.M.D.S. Clock-
C1Analog Red....................C2Analog Green...................C3Analog Blue
C4Analog Horizontal Sync.C5Analog.Ground (analog R, G, & B return) Digital Only Connector

Dragon

02-13-2005, 09:28 PM

i couldnt even find the model numbers you just posted, of course i had to go to work... but thanks! ill def look too!

i can almost say for certain that its the 14.1, the other specs were 128mb, 20gb, std. spkers, plain cd drive, floppy, and so on.

Dragon

02-14-2005, 08:38 AM

oki found this, but i dont know if the layouts are the same for each or specific to models... it would make sense that they were the same but....

http://www.esskabel.de/Datenblaetter/LCD-Specs/AU/G150XG01.pdf

also this:

http://www.esskabel.de/Datenblaetter/LCD-Specs/NEC/TFT/NL128102BC29-01.pdf

and well... this is a bit pricey:

http://www2.dvigear.com/mudtolvad.html

harrynac

03-15-2005, 12:30 PM

hey. i'm new here ( i'm dutch so my english is not so good.

I bought a touch screen from a laptop, can I put it on my pc ?
What must i need to put it on my pc?
i have a ati radeon 9800 pro 128mb
http://members.home.nl/deregtx/71_1.jpg
this is the touch screen
how must i connect it to my pc

harrynac

03-15-2005, 12:30 PM

Dragon

03-16-2005, 09:08 AM

well.. this is somewhat helpful, but somewhat discouraging, im gonna keep looking anyway.. like i said, ill keep you guys updated, any help is great! just need that lvds 1 pinout

crash6

03-22-2005, 03:07 AM

ok i'm reading here and not quite understanding

is it possible to take my lcd from laptop ibm thinkpad 600x and hook it up to my vid card dvi port ??

omegatotal

04-17-2005, 09:17 PM

hmm
good thinking there
writting the assembly code for the drivers yourself to allow a special pin configuration

ill have to look into that

btw welcome to the forum
its never too late to jump in this thread as this is more of a cumulative knowledge database

time to work my assembly skills

wont work, it's a difference in the electrical signal, like trying to plug in a parellel printer to a serial port,

AFAICR LCD's from laptops and such use TTL or tmds? signals, but what u can do is get a really cheap laptop that works but needs a new battery/power or drives.. and just use it with an external usb storage device... because the signal from the laptop should be good for a 10 foot run from motherboard to the display if good cabling is used.. and since ur running it off ur car anyway it wont need an inverter just get the pinout for the battery... should work on older laptops..