GeForce4 MX440

[vee_ess]

I am thinking about getting a GeForce4 MX440, and I was wonderin what everyone thought of it.

it is relatively cheap; $109 for Leadtek!!!, performs on par with GF3 and is better anything else on low-res gaming (including GF4 titanium4600 on good number of games), it has VIVO (S-video, RCA jacks, supporting 1280X768 for tv-out), has great frame rates (around 60 on Unreal and other toughies even at max res of 2048 X 1500 somethin), makes DVD's actually look better than what is recorded with the new Video Processing Engine (VPE) which is avail only on GF4 MX's not TI's, and has support for DX8.1.

[gus]

Did you get it yet???

I put one in my system the other day, it's pretty nice. But, I cannot find or figure out the whole tv-out thing. It included no cable and I can't find one anywhere, any ideas??
thanks

[vee_ess]

no i did not get it yet, but did you get the leadtek? maybe you might want to consult with your reseller and ask them what it includes before telling them you have one and see if it includes a cable cuz that is what it is suppose to have i think.

[Jord413]

Hmm, it depends on what you want to use the card for. SPAMI bought one but returned it today. SPAMIt ran fairly well but as I learned more about it it became unappealing to me. SPAMIf you play a lot of games consider this: SPAM

The card does not support Direct X 8 (I think the highest it does is 7)

Now on the other hand the GF3 Ti series supports DX 8.1 fully. SPAMThis means a huge performance increase in games that use DX 8.1, which most of the newer games do and will. SPAMOverall, even the GeForce 3 Ti 200 is about 30 % better and in games that use DX 8 calls the Ti 200 shows about a 50-60% improvement over the GF4 MX440 card. SPAMJust something to think about

I returned mine and I'm gonna grab a Gainward GF3 Ti 200 128 DDR Ram card from http://www.nutrend.com in a few days for $162 with shipping. SPAMI could grab a 64 meg version of the card for 135 or so but I'd rather have the extra 64 for the future. ;D

Btw, if you're wondering where I'm getting my stats go to http://www.madonion.com and download the 3dMark2001 benchmark tests. SPAMYou can compare your results to others and it lists the top cards overall. SPAMGood luck with your cards. ;)

Also if you haven't heard, which I'm sure you have, check out http://www.pricewatch.com SPAM SPAMGreat site for prices. 8)

[vee_ess]

with the whole directx 8.1 thing, it supports it partially, but the decoder and stuff costs Nvidia about $50 bucks more just to put the full support in, and many of the games that are going to come out that were going to use DX 8.1, and pay the royalties, realized that only 5-8 percent of their customers will be able to support it. plus those games costs too much for me. I am probably not going to get the card for a while though. but i will keep watching pricewatch, and yes i agree it is a good site, as i use it to watch the industry, but i haven't bought from any of those sites as i am not sure how trustworthy they are.

[deathhead]

If the card doesn't have the vivo chip you won't have tv out. I have the visiontek ti 4600 and it comes w/ the vivo chip. However the pny SPAMti 4600 doesn't. If the card didn't come with the cable chances are you don't have tv out.

[StNick]

I have a Creative Labs GeForce 2 GTS. SPAMI am contemplating whether or not to buy a Geforce 4 MX440/460. SPAMI have never been a fan of graphics cards bearing the letters MX, simply because their performance has never impressed me. SPAMHowever, it would appear that the GeForce 4 counterpart is unlike it's predecessors.

Would you recommend that I upgrade, or should I rather save and get a non-MX card?

[Omega]

It's all a matter of how much performance you demand. The GeForce 4 MX cards are going to preform worse, or around the same as GeForce 3 cards, and you probably won't notice a huge performance increase from your current GeForce 2 GTS. The GeForce 4 MX, however, will support more features and has more hardware-based rendering engines and whatnot.

I personally would go with a GeForce 4 Ti 4400 rather than the MX, unless you're just in a hurry to get something, fast.

[vee_ess]

deathhead: you're wrong about the VIVO thing, as the GF4's have VIVO built-in to the core, i can post pics if anyone likes of the layout of the architecture

and about the TI4400's, they outperform the MX460's only on full DX8.1 games, otherwise it heats up your sys more and gets less frame rates at exact same quality, so why pay for a card that has payed 50 -80 bucks in royalties, and only get better perf on some games and worse on others?

[Dmitriy]

Wrong, TI serries is better, it has more futures, even GF3 *the first one* has more futures then GF4 MX and will support more games then the GF4MX in the future. The MX460 doesnt even come close to TI4200 not talking about 4400... so sorry buddy... to dissapoint yah, go for the TI or die... lol

[vee_ess]

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hey guess what there is no TI4200

[Dmitriy]

First of all thats not the point, second of all yes they are for sale... GAINWARD/CARDEXPERT GeForce 4 Ti 4200, 3.5ns, 64MB is the TI4200's for sale right now. SPAMhttp://www.netsmog.com/YaBBImages//rolleyes.gif

[vee_ess]

I apologize, you are right. I did not get any emails saying that it was ever in the pipeline. But, no excuses, I was wrong. (ouch that hurt bad)

Most clocking utilities and hardware testers show that on 1280 X 1024 and below the MX series usually outperforms the others on lower resolutions which only non-serious gamers (most of us) will usually be using. plus the MX series has tons of features the GF3 TI's don't. it has the improved quincunx for better quality on all games, not just the ones who have paid MS some royalties to use some of their technologies. BTW, the MX series does support DX 8.1, just not fully, excluding the least common features (and excluding the royalties that go along that would have been passed on to us consumers). the MX series has NView supporting multiple monitor systems, graphics environments, and desktops simultaneously. It also has something the TI's dont...the Video Processing Engine, which actually makes your video look better, enhancing the multimedia experience. there is no TI vid card that make my movies appear even better in my home theater. the architecture on the GF4 TI's are designed for ultra high bandwidth so it is not so effective on the not-so-high 4200's. in fact it is lower than the 460's bandwidth. that is the suspected reason of the faster performance. another possible reason is the Lightspeed Memory Architecture (LMA) II, which is up to 3 times faster than LMA I, which is on the GF3 TI's. I would like to have my video card do everything well.

[Dmitriy]

Im not saying MX is bad i bought one for the heck of it the GF4 440MX just for benchmarking and so on but to tell you the truth i liked it its a very nice card, but still doesnt compare with TI's serries.... right now its in its box sitting on the floor with Crystal ORB.

[vee_ess]

holy sh!t. you not only have b@d @$$ sys, you have tight @$$ parts laying around! If you aint gonna use it, would you sell it? and how iz it you have so much moolah to spend?

[Dmitriy]

I was going to write up a review for the site that i mod at www.mods4me.com check it out its pretty cool, but i never got to write up an article on it, so today *1 hour ago* I moded the card, and will be benchmarking it today. Will see how it goes, this card has never been clocked or used, it is 30days month old and havent been taken out of the box antill an hour ago, and moded. Here are the pic's, also the heat sink is on the back too so its cooling back memory chips too. Also if you ever have trouble or need help @ www.mods4me.com ask me ill be glad to help.

Dmitriy

I will have to think about selling it, because i have one system that i want to get up and running and it needs a new CDrom and Video Card... so im not sure yet... but here are the pics of the card.

http://home.attbi.com/~dmitriy15/FinalProduct.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~dmitriy15/nudeGF4MX.jpg

http://home.attbi.com/~dmitriy15/Stock.jpg

[Dmitriy]

Here it is bro.... http://www.mods4me.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2274

[vee_ess]

nice article man...I noticed "And there really wasnt that much of a diffarance between my TI4600???" he he he...ya think there might be a chance i could do reviews there?? i wanna play with hardware, but not enough money to buy just for playin, and i dont wanna mess up the whole family's comp...sometimes upto 2 days before i get it fixed! i am dead by then