View Full Version : Why Linux should have already killed the Internet

06-10-2001, 04:01 PM
Microsoft put up a TechNet article in response to Steve Gibson's piece about why Windows XP was more likely to cause attackers to invoke dDoS storms upon websites. According to this article, UNIX, VMS, and Linux are just as likely to be used in dDoS attacks as Windows XP because they have the "Raw Sockets implementation."

The article also makes the point that software can be installed on existing Windows machines to cause IP address spoofing. The Internet Connection Firewall built into Windows XP, Outlook Express 6, Outlook 2000 Service Pack 2, and the Outlook included with Office XP will also prevent malicious code from running undetected on someone's machine. Furthermore, XP can be "configured" not to run certain types of code or script.

For more information read the full article here. (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/raw_sockets.asp)

06-10-2001, 05:36 PM
Although I can see your side of the argument, you have to remember these 'script kiddies' are writing IRC virii and trojans for windows machines. SPAMLinux boxes can be compromised, although this is rare because most linux admins being a bit more knowledgeable about security and checking logs regularly when compared to the average Win9x/CableModem hacker's target.


09-13-2001, 07:11 PM
You would be amazed at the thousand of linux boxes compromised daily. The problem is newbie admins and home users on cable modems installing linux just to try it - or to get a free server setup. They don't know jack about security and script kiddies exploit simple things like named, ftpd, smtp, and pop3 servers.

09-13-2001, 07:13 PM
Yes i know...damn them hackers! Damn them all to hell!

11-08-2001, 06:13 AM
The point made by S Gibson and windows XP still remains correct, although Linux has these "Raw Sockets implementation" already.

I think the point should have actually mentioned more to the fact that now a lot more programs will be availible for anyone
to download from the net and go attacking other people.
with little or no knowledge about programming etc

Look at the amount of people no calling themselves hackers
that just download a bruteforce attack program, then download a combo wordlist, then download some proxies and wohoooo hammer the hell outta paysites to get User/pass

now we all know that ainīt hackers all the have done is push buttons, however winXP will be able to bring out more of these
type of programs, the internet if not all already " irc "
will become on big war zone

Just think you ban some " younger user " for being an Asshole
and he takes your server down with a 56k dail up :O(

Now hackerz are all "++**##'' SPAMI agree, but I cannot wait to C
some newer far more dangerous windows programz on some rather interesting sites like deny.de that anyone without any knowledge of security unix etc, will be able to download and press one button ARGH help run

Up to now the hacking generation has had to have at least some experiance of programing etc

Not only are some windows based sites banning Linux users,
I for a fact know that some interesting Linux forums are banning all windows users as, from the launch, off windows XP

Most hardcore Linux users have windows as a second O/S ( or a few pcīs :O) )
to help the gurl/wife/man SPAMalso get online and use, a lot of our geek forums used to, SPAMhave chat rooms setup, for these SPAMgurls/men to chat in safety.

Many people I am sure are now using these type of "dead" Forums as apposed to the Live IRC to enjoy the internet.
MSN IRC was a warzone and I bet loads of people are glad it closed down, but winXP is the hackerz Joy now and it will not take long for programz to be on some Hackerz sitez that any XP user can download and start war.

I hope that I am not true on this and just over paraniod