View Full Version : WinXP licence vs HW upgrades
Is this true that when you have XP installed you are allowed to upgrade certain HW parts limited number of times and then your licence expires and you have to renew it ... that kinda crap
Not sure, but I think this topic was mentioned somewhere.
And when micro demanded to put serials on case, what a bullsh ...
Cheers
Chef
Uranium-235
03-15-2002, 11:55 AM
you know their are 'programs' to get past that ;)
Uranium-235
03-15-2002, 11:58 AM
Take for example...
I know there are programs, U235. Crackz, patches, sweet, yeah, but I'm talikng about the whole system ...
This interesting feature of WinXP wasn't really advertised, not by micro & not by distributors. In a fact few ppl ever heard about ;)
Talking about WinXP's advantages (if there any); with such a dirty trick, who's going to buy it now ???
And what's next (without programs) when the licence actually expired ? What typical user suppose to do
Cheers
Chef
Uranium-235
03-15-2002, 01:08 PM
I don't think the license expires, but if you change hardware then you have to get a new code,I think from microsoft
wizbones
03-15-2002, 01:11 PM
Not to defend MS, but it's pretty smart really. For example Uranium's post says it all. Cracks n hacks are the reason for the dirty deed being created.
Everybody wants something for nothing. How many systems have you seen with someone else OS installed on it. A buddies a friends a family members and so on.
I do not agree that after X amount of upgrades of drivers or reinstalls you should have to relicense but again the amount of "free" or "illegal" installations out there just think how much richer ol' Gates would be.
Again I do not support MS for their tactics so don't flame me, but if it was my product out there and say I was only getting paid for one out of every 50 installations, I'd be looking for a way to prevent it myself.
Ok, just for my opinion micro pushed to far this time.
The idea wasn't new, as for example all HP laptops have hidden partition and dog knows what's in there ;) This attempt to stop pirated software flood is useless again, since ;) certain utilities ;) allow you to bypass the restriction ( wasn't that cracks.am ).
I just think of typical user that goes to store, purchases legal CD and installes the OS. And when sth goes wrong with HW he has additional headake with XP. (Then his friend tells him to go to cracks.am, but that's a different story ... )
Cheers
Chef
consider this case closed ;)
Uranium-235
03-15-2002, 06:43 PM
yeah I wasn't talking about getting illegal copies of xp and using it free with the crack. I was talking about buying a legit copy and using a crack to stop MS from bugging you. If I get a product and I pay for a product, I think hacking it is ok, cause nobody gets hurt, microsoft still gets the money, so they shant be bitching
Of course if you dont mind feeling dirty and violated you can find a friend of a friend who happens to have a copy of XP Pro Corp edition....
No product activation required..
vee_ess
03-16-2002, 01:13 PM
i think it is only fair of them, as illegal copies make it more expensive. that sux more than activation. just go online and activate it again if you have to.
you can do 6 changes before you have to reactivate it, unless you have OEM, which you can do unlimited, but must keep it to one comp. and all those pc mags were talking bout it , surpised you haven't heard much bout it.
I've heard about, but noticed that this topic wasn't really mentioned on public. Not PCMag and stuff, but for typical SEU. and that's ~ 75% of all users ;)
Nobody tells you about, when you come to store to get it,
Nobody will point you to this serious disadvantage, that's all ...
Cheers
Chef
Grinnin Reaper
03-16-2002, 04:09 PM
Your limited to 3 hardware upgrades then XP tells you you need to re-register or it stops working in a preset amount of time
Here's a link to some posts about that
http://www.netsmog.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=windows&action=display&num=991139934&start=0
And here's the world's easiest crack. SPAMThis was proven on a beta but may still work
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20433.html
According to this note on the register just copy that file back from a backup copy and as long as your memory didn't chage your fine. SPAMYou rally need to read this though it goes into great detail as to what will trigger a re-register notification and how long you'll have.
vee_ess
03-17-2002, 01:41 AM
sorry savage, but it aint 3, it was gonna be four prior to release and then when they released it it became 6.
you right chef, they didn't say a word in the stores, i didn't hear what you saying. i dont think it is that bad though, cuz four months after an upgrade it takes it off of upgrade status or so to speak.so if you upgrade once a month you can go forever without having to re-activate
Aoshi
03-17-2002, 03:21 PM
BEST WAY TO GET AROUND THAT: SPAMuse win98 or win2kpro SPAM8)
vee_ess
03-17-2002, 03:44 PM
one problem though,
Windows 98 lacksStabilityWindows 2000 lacksCompatibilityWindows XP lacks(N/A)
talking about XP lacks you may find this article interesting ;)
http://grc.com/dos/xpconference.htm
Cheers
Grinnin Reaper
03-17-2002, 06:59 PM
Sorry about tha Vee ess I didn't here they upped it to 6. SPAMBut I disagree about 98 not being stable. SPAMMy system is fairly stable considering how much messin' I do with it SPAM;D . SPAM I had 2000 on my laptop at work and went back to 98 for stability and general pain in the ass issues. SPAMMessed with XP for 5 minutes on someone else's computer and was very sorry for even looking at it. SPAMThe few things I like about Windows was gone. SPAMTheir right it makes you free. SPAMFree to shoot yourself in the face. SPAMIf you want something to be user friendly why make it harder to use. SPAMI just want it to run quicker and better. SPAMI don't need the integrated crap and the electric butt wiper. SPAMIf I need DVD software I'll go get it. SPAMJust give me speed and ease of use. SPAMThat is what an OS needs to be. SPAM(and now I'll get of my soapbox.)
Aoshi
03-17-2002, 07:31 PM
win 98 has pretty good stability,
win2k yeah maybe, but i like it SPAM;)
XP isnt out there for us techies, its out there for joe computer illiterate
vee_ess
03-17-2002, 11:49 PM
on many computers, i believe you are right Savage. mine has weird configuration though and it doesn't run any DOS kernel OS very stabily. With 2k, i have not had it crash twice in a day. In fact XP hasn't crashed yet, in a week, and 2k hadn't crashed for me for a period of about 8 months, coulda kept going but i installed XP. I have gotten acustom to the way you tweak 2k and xp and could not go back even if it was stable to a DOS kernel OS, simply cuz of the lack of power. It is hard to find at first in 2k and xp, but once you find the areas to play in, you are drenched in powerful toys.
now gonna read Chef's article
edit: but its long so ill read when offline
not Chef's but Steve's article ;). he's the real pro and there's much more great articles on his site.
Now about stability.
There is no perfect OS, so if Win2000 crashes (more like freezes) on sth, I run that specific application on Win98 and vice versa. Older OS are usually more stable, that's why W2K networks are not popular yet.
Not all W98 software was approved to work with WinME/XP/2K, but it works fine. It's obviously impossible to predict how certain application would behave on certain machine with another 100 things installed, so having several OS is not a bad idea ;)
In about 2 yrs MS announced on Win98SE/Win2000/WinME/WinXP (not to talk about all the pro,corp,adv,pe and so on), so it's odd to think there is sth revolutionary new in each one of these, sure it's fun to try new things, but to waste money for it ???
Cheers
Chef
vee_ess
03-18-2002, 06:10 PM
yeah, i agree, there is no perfect OS. Linux aint all it's cracked up to be. when you add all the soft mods to make it more compatible, it loses a bit of its stability and isnt much better than win2k. i run many OS's on my comp too. just i dont like to cuz it isn't only mine, its my familys and i dont want it to be a pain for them.
ps. chef, read howdie in general board, dont take it personally, it is the truth though
hey vee_eez, just replayed your howdie in general board, SPAMtake it personally, but remember I didn't start it ...
Cheers
Chef
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