Say goodbye to ATA parallel and say hello to Serial ATA [Archive]

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Mac_forever

07-31-2002, 01:47 AM

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,103268,tk,dn073002X,00.asp

This should help all of us having hard drive speed issues. This new connector will be a lot faster than what we have today like up to 4x faster.
I can't wait until I can get one.

Uranium-235

07-31-2002, 01:53 AM

Why do you care, you use a MAC :P

vee_ess

07-31-2002, 06:19 PM

U235 has got a point, because you won't be able to use it til years after, but either way, it shouldn't make too much of a difference. That's only because that has always been thought to be a bottle neck, but tests prove that it really makes no difference once you are at ATA100. Plus serial can only max out at around 500 Mhz, and only a much bigger jump will make a difference in the future. What does make a difference is access times which doesn't have anything to do with the speed of the drive.

MIK3

07-31-2002, 06:58 PM

U235 has got a point, because you won't be able to use it til years after. lmao...sorry man...just had to point that out, but in vee_ess's further information in that thread, i agree with it as well

Mac_forever

08-01-2002, 01:36 AM

U guys have a point. In regards to me having a mac and not being able to use new PC tech, there are quite a few companies that make mac upgrades to allow use of PC new Tech. For example USB 2.0, once it was in stores the Mac had upgrade cards within 6 months. The Mac was ther first to have the GeForce 3 and 4 in their computers. Bluetooth and Wi-fi are on the mac side also. Macs were the first to have a built-in Wi-fi connection/slot. U have heard of the Airport Car, right.

Mac_forever

08-01-2002, 01:38 AM

Grinnin Reaper

08-01-2002, 06:43 AM

Umm, maybe I'm missing something but isn't serial by nature slower than parallel. Do you ya'll remember way back when you could print through the round serial cable's. Slower than you can imagine and more painfull than I care to remember. Because serial sends data one bit at a time and parallel can send multiple bits at the same time just how can it be faster. Maybe I'm missing something.

Uranium-235

08-01-2002, 01:35 PM

true

but have you ever thought that Serial ATA can send and recieve at an alarming rate.

Grinnin Reaper

08-01-2002, 02:11 PM

I understand it could be fast. But if you had 8 parallel lines that would kick the dog crap out of one serial line. Same technology just more of it. Hell I'ld even run 8 diffrent cable's if I had to.

compguru

08-02-2002, 12:52 AM

first implementation of serial ata will be a pci card that will enable speeds of 150 (will be out shortly), then as it becomes more popular it will be introduced to new mobos then the speed will increase to 300, 600 and 800 i believe

parrallel is dead... now the floppy drives plz

i cant wait; im sick of the huge ide chords

Uranium-235

08-02-2002, 01:00 AM

Speeds of 150

Impossible, since the maximum transfer rate between the PCI bus and any device is about 127MBps on a 32-bit pci slot.

Unless we're talking about using a 64-bit pci slot, then yeah

Smoked1

08-04-2002, 12:47 AM

A very valid point

Bear

08-07-2002, 10:39 AM

Can a hardrive go at ATA 100 ? I belive not, but if more than one
HDD the "bandwith" could be useful.

Smoked1

08-07-2002, 12:56 PM

Go SCSI!

Bear

08-08-2002, 04:45 AM

Yes scsi still the best.
But so expensive

vee_ess

08-08-2002, 12:32 PM

SCSI may have higher clock speeds, but the architecture is too archaic that it performs worse than ATA100's.

Uranium-235

08-08-2002, 03:19 PM

Yes but scsi drives tend to be more expensive and last quite a bit longer then ATA/IDE

Smoked1

08-08-2002, 03:24 PM

I think the bottom line is that SCSI drives are much faster. Harder to install but faster. I will write an article on it soon.

Bear

08-08-2002, 04:24 PM

I belive the scsi systems multitask better.

Smoked1

08-08-2002, 04:33 PM

I can't wait to test it out. I wanna see if frame rates are increased.

MIK3

08-09-2002, 03:19 AM

i cant wait til you test it out either. BTW scsi only lasts longer because generally servers run scsi's and so they put better parts and so then people who are going to run servers then put scsi's and its endless. dont forget that the only diff b/w the two is the way it communicates which has nottin to do with the parts and stuff, so they could, if they wanted to put the better parts in the ata's also.