Setting up a server for my site

[Prometheus]

How would i go about setting up a server that has its own domain

for instance

www.promfiles.com for my files how would i set that up from home?

[xMerCLorDx]

you first need a static ip.. well you can get a dynamic one but thats retarded cuz u have to change your domain with your registrar every time.. which takes about a day to change domain-to-ip translation over on the dns servers every time your ip changes. so get a static ip.. buy a doman name from a registrar, set up web services on it: http // apache // simpleserver // etc.

since you do not know how to run apache ( derived from your post ) you should run something like: http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/network/sswww.htm

its ridiculously easy to set up a page with this.. alternatively you can use windows IIS but before you do that i get to bitch-slap you.


that is all, wewt!

[Prometheus]

uhm....it didnt work no rpogram installed

[xMerCLorDx]

please explain what in the world you are talking about.

[Prometheus]

says it installed no new programs show up

my computer cant find the dos prompt as it trys to open it in install

kinda weird

[xMerCLorDx]

start - programs - analogX ??

[james]

actually, you don't need a static IP. you can use the free services at dyndns.org to autoupdate your changing IP. a very convenient thing.

[Prometheus]

bah......

i might need someone to help me who is actually here :S

[xMerCLorDx]

you don't need it but those are crapper than all hell. i hate those second rate dns updaters.. you have to run a piece of their software too i think.. its just more money or more ads.

[james]

you don't need it but those are crapper than all hell. i hate those second rate dns updaters.. you have to run a piece of their software too i think.. its just more money or more ads.

uhh, actually it's not. in fact, I use it for a company I work for and it never has any downtime, even with an IP switch. In fact, the uptime is something like 58 days (ok ok, not much for a server, but since it was setup something like 58 days ago, not a bad track record). Nor are there any ads to deal with. It's completely free. but yes, you do have to have some kind of software running to make sure that your IP gets updated. or you could run a cron job (task scheduler for win) or something like that to make sure it's uptodate w/o abusing the system.

[xMerCLorDx]

i still prefer static anyday

any extra cron jobs are taxing cycles.. I guess i'm a perfectionist whore when it comes to performance and downtime.

[james]

i still prefer static anyday

any extra cron jobs are taxing cycles.. I guess i'm a perfectionist whore when it comes to performance and downtime.

that's just a ridiculous view. Performance and downtime are not unbounded sets. They are obviously constrained by cost. If your preference set is bounded by a tight budget, then doubling the cost of internet for a static IP would mean not eating groceries or something as opposed to eating a few CPU cycles out of a couple thousand or so. Not exactly what I would call an optimal trade-off. Of course, if your budget set is higher, then maybe you would just have to do w/o, i dunno, something not as important as groceries.

The point is that there are alternatives and viewing something like a computer to be perfect is just silly. If you really were aiming for perfection (whatever that means in the context of ever-changing technology), you probably wouldn't be using x86 (which i would bet 3-1 odds that the original poster is).

[xMerCLorDx]

" then doubling the cost of internet for a static IP "

my ass.. talk to any local cable company for a static at my house its $5 extra a month. and thats with at&t.. its not nearly a quarter the price of internet.

non-x86 cpus are more perfect? what? please explain this to me.

Viewing a computer to be perfect? What makes you think I said anything like that. Its not what I think, but I sure as hell make sure the thing runs hitchless with the least cpu cycles possible to accomplish the same things. Basically I keep the conditions of the operating system in a quality as high as possible. I said I was a perfectionist.. not that computers were perfect. If you want to argue what I said, go for it, I didn't edit anything.

[Uranium-235]

before we continue this, I would just like to point out that some ISP's (like mine-charter) don't like people hosting on thier cable/DSL internet connection. And if detected, they might warn you or cut off your service.

[james]

well, in my area, getting a static IP on cable does cost double (though it is also associated with increased bandwidth).

stating that you're a perfectionist in regard to something explicity implies (unless my logic is totally flawed, which I don't think it is) that that something has an ideal of perfection to which you can attain and therefore reasonably call yourself a perfectionist. Otherwise, you would have to use another word, i.e. 'anal' (for a trite example) indicating an striving for getting to, not a particular point, but to a good point in some pluralistic sense. now that i've started talking about pluralism, i'm going to stop myself b/c that just shouldn't happen on a forum about networking.

uranium brings up a good point, which further supports my cost argument.

[xMerCLorDx]

before we continue this, I would just like to point out that some ISP's (like mine-charter) don't like people hosting on thier cable/DSL internet connection. And if detected, they might warn you or cut off your service.

ok thats why upstream bandwidth is limited/capped. if it wasn't and you were using a lot more bandwidth, then sure i bet they would get angry. But why would they get upset that their clients are "hosting"? If they think it causes trouble hosting do you think you would be able to play/host games? or host ftp? or web services? or send images over direct connect? all of the above use selective sockets. If you have any socket/port open you are "Hosting" which is not an illegal thing every computer that is on a network has to do that. If you are abusing their service and it is detrimental to the ISP then they will get on you. For the most part ISP's do not have an issue with you hosting.

Additionally they add that in their service agreement so that if you are ever in the middle of large software pirating or the like that they can nail you, or if you are a host that has too many security holes [ or hosted services ] they may also have an issue for that reason. I am not sure exactly with your ISP, they may not like it. But I know AT&T has disclaimers stating they do not recommend hosting large ftp/mail/web services [ disclaming legal responsibility to you in that reguard ].

well, in my area, getting a static IP on cable does cost double (though it is also associated with increased bandwidth).

stating that you're a perfectionist in regard to something explicity implies (unless my logic is totally flawed, which I don't think it is) that that something has an ideal of perfection to which you can attain and therefore reasonably call yourself a perfectionist.

i can see where that extra cost comes from then, if you tag on extra bandwidth. That surely makes sense.

Stating i'm a perfectionist clearly describes my persona/behavior/actions. I could also use more descriptive words that are more accurate than "anal" although that could be used because i am meticulous in my methods. I am more of a perfectionist, however, and yes that ideal is of "perfection" that still does not mean that I think computers are perfect. I strive to reach perfection I have high standards..that is an IDEAL thats not any twisting of the word perfectionist. Don't tell me that I contradict it, I definately do not.


Otherwise, you would have to use another word, i.e. 'anal' (for a trite example) indicating an striving for getting to, not a particular point, but to a good point in some pluralistic sense. now that i've started talking about pluralism, i'm going to stop myself b/c that just shouldn't happen on a forum about networking.

you are correct, that would be a trite example. That skews the point though. Also you lost directive in your post insinuating that you're more clever with your replies by spouting some bs about the pluralism of anal "good points" to impress someone. That doesn't even make much sense for a logical person. You could have more specifically discussed the pluralism of what all anal means, because you obviously know that it describes me so very well.

uranium brings up a good point, which further supports my cost argument.

how does any of what he said support your cost argument? warnings or cut-off service do not cost money. [unless you mean the contractual agreement to continue over a paid period of time, in which case i suggest you read into your agreements/warranty/disclaimers a bit more thoroughly so you are more cautious about breaking those said contract points]

now could you please explain how non-x86 cpus are more perfect?