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Robert A. Patterson
04-05-2004, 10:58 AM
Waveguide & Energy Conversion :confused:

Hello I am a waveguide enthusiast. I have been designing my own waveguide technology, which includes resonant cavities, optical coupling, slotted line antenna, grounding planes etc... However I am building an energy conversion system vs. a communications device by using the waveguide antenna to excite capacitors in a tank circuit, which discharge across a set of spark gap electrodes that I then use to excite a twin set of radio cavities, which energize a bank of huge plate capacitors, impedance matching is via a set of spiral antennas connected to a delta antenna set in parabolic reflector dish.

I built a model of the device unfortunately the waveguide is a hack job, thou I do get a signal from 100-180 MHz on the frequency counter, and my transformer is pretty crappy too as I don't have the where with all to obtain the correct sized ferrite beads for my matrix transformer, so I just put the beads on a single loop and laid the two secondary along side the ferrite beads. I did try energizing the then with a HV ion emitter source though and all of the components would light a fluorescent bulb when near of touching any of the components in the circuit.

Just wondering if you would want to help out by discussing waveguide concepts. I have tried to discus these concepts in other forums but they seem to think that I am building a device that will misappropriate energy from the local TV or Radio transmission towers but this just is not the case in fact I am tuning to the atomic transition frequency and not the local transmission towers. :shake:

Thank you

Jason425
04-05-2004, 05:34 PM
i'd love to help, but i know too litlte about what you're talking about

Grinnin Reaper
04-05-2004, 08:16 PM
What size is your wave guide? Not nearly at your level but it bears at least mentioning that smaller waveguides are better tuned for higher frequencies. I'm dealing with some stuff in the microwave range right now and it's fairly small. if your dealing with 100-180 MHz that should be huge (lower freq, larger wavelength and all that). Just courious, sounds interesting at least from what I understand.

Robert A. Patterson
04-05-2004, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the comments...


I started out with 2-cavities from several old C-band dish antennas and joined the sections of the resonant cavities together at their choke joints, milled several apertures or holes, along with a groove in the choke joint, and a set of slotted line antenna in the floor of the waveguide to act as my atom trap and optically coupled photons into the waveguide with a set of lens apertures, fabricated a multi-element transformer form ferrite beads with spark gap switching.

The design concept is modeled after Nikola Tesla, Moray and Plauson's "Radiant Energy Converters", its the forbidden free energy technology that academia claims as impossible.

Funny thing about splitting the atom is you get lots of free energy...

See QED, Cavity-QED, Atom-Coupled Optical Waveguides, ZPE :wavey:

Grinnin Reaper
04-05-2004, 10:24 PM
Wouldn't opto couplers eliminate transfer of energy?? The uses I've seen them for in electronics is to eleminate transfer on energy but pass the signal. Without a source of excitation after the opto coupler the most energy you'll have is what is generated by the output of the coupler. Maybe I'm not understanding but that's the only use I've seen for them. If your going for a normal freq range wouldn't a standard delta port coupler be the easiest way to go? Danged if I know the price, I never buy the parts, I just work on 'em.

Robert A. Patterson
04-05-2004, 11:31 PM
No, primarily the focal length or optical coupling is equivalent to the size of an atom i.e. the focal point is one atom across at the focal length of the lens, and trapped via the dipole effect of the slotted line antenna, also take into consideration the polarization or rotation of the light wave, e.g. when the light is focused to a point you have this shape "V" plus the rotation which effectively causes the wave to spin in the manner of a vortex, hence there is an implosion of energy into the waveguide. In other words the energy is caused to cohere and corkscrew itself into the waveguide... :nod:

Grinnin Reaper
04-05-2004, 11:49 PM
So to kinda understand from my realm (Electronics Tech/Computer Tech/Mechanic, no engineer at all). Are you basically relying on the cavitities to be harmonic off shoot of your frequency. Because it sounds to me like your dealing with 2 very diffrent wavelengths. you quoted 100-180 MHz but light is closer to 700 Tera Herz ????? think it's like 7x10 to the 14th power for some visible light. In the RF I deal with everything has to be tuned to just the right size, waveguides are made to specific size dependent on freq, cavities are tuned for exact resonance and such. Just wondering how the relativly low freq stuff your using holds up to the very high freq your using. I know there is a point of harmonic where all higher freq's cross over a lower freq (typical multiplication low freq x 2 or a power thereof). Sorry getting late, outta caffine and brain hurts to much from such things. Not sure I understand where ya goin' but sounds interesting. Would love to hear as much as I can understand.

Jason425
04-06-2004, 12:30 AM
i'm just reading tons and tons of stuff I don't understand hoping it'll benefit me somehow.. :/

Robert A. Patterson
04-06-2004, 11:10 AM
An associative analogy would be to compare the low frequency with that of a small valve on a spray-can i.e. the small valve atop the spray-can controls a larger pressure likewise the low frequency controls the high frequency pressure in this energy conversion system.

Interesting aspects of atomic behavior in the presence of strong driving fields appear when the driven atom resides not in free space, but in a region (such as an optical cavity) that displays a frequency-dependent photon-mode density. Optical excitation provides an important means of controlling the internal state of quantum systems. Optical sources are important to areas such as quantum state preparation, quantum computing and coherent control.


Cavity atoms experience significant squeezing under the influence of strong driving fields. These squeezing effects are intrinsically connected to the polarization of dressed state populations by tuning the cavity appropriately close to the atomic transition frequency we may induce a non-vanishing inversion of the dressed-state's setting the standard for optimal conditions for atomic squeezing.


This mechanism is associated with the coupling of the atom to the zero point electromagnetic fields, empty-cavity transmission resonances are found to split in the presence of the atoms and under these conditions the cavities temporal responses are found to be oscillatory. High-level dressed-state polarization can be maintained in a sample of resonantly/nonresonantly driven atoms by appropriate tuning of an enclosing cavity. Furthermore, for appropriate RF frequencies and cavity tunings it is found that the atomic state becomes highly squeezed.

The receiving structures are of a volumetric size selected to enable the structures to resonate at a high frequency of the incident electromagnetic radiation based on the parameters of frequency of the incident radiation and propagation characteristics of the medium and of the receiving structures.

Since zero point radiation has the characteristic that its energy density increases as its frequency increases, greater amounts of electromagnetic energy are available at higher frequencies. Consequently, the sizes of the structures are preferably miniaturized in order to produce greater amounts of energy from a system located within a space or area of a given size. In this regard, the smaller the size of the receiving structures, the greater the amount of energy that can be produced by the system

The difference in volumetric size and the proximal zones are very small so that interference between the emitted radiation fields, and the receiving structures at the two different frequencies produces a beat frequency radiation, which has a much higher frequency than the incident radiation. The beat frequency radiation preferably is at a frequency that it may be easily converted to a useable electrical-energy of a higher energy density having a desired voltage and waveform.

Note: Incident zero point radiation has its desirable high energy densities at frequencies which are so high that conventional systems for converting the radiation to electrical energy either cannot effectively or efficiently convert the radiation energy or simply cannot be used to convert the radiation energy for reasons beyond usual methods.

8)

xMerCLorDx
04-06-2004, 03:27 PM
sorry to go on a tangent, i've been browsing your site and i was very interested in a few of the things listed in your autobiography. all of your links seem to be broken on that page, the wing chun gung fu academy was something i've been interested in for a while and had no idea was in the area. i was also curious to see if you had more information about your ducted fan concepts, vortex science theories, and especially as they relate to hovercrafts. reguarding 'grid locked 1994' i remember seeing these designs being built as you said, by hobbiests, and was curious as to who came up with them.

any information on this stuff would be great, i wouldn't bother to ask but your links seem to all be broken!

Robert A. Patterson
04-06-2004, 04:13 PM
The links are broken on purpose, the page you accessed is a preview of an up coming book that I am working on. The Wing Chun school is now closed as far as I know, Sifu passed away from a sudden heat attack a few years ago and I have been Oklahoma since mid-1998. I'm sure there are a few privately operated Wing Chun classes still active in SoCal. unfortunately I have lost all but a few of my classmates connections, I can of course ask if anyone knows who is now teaching, if you like?


http://search.msn.com/preview.aspx?&q=Moller+International
Moller International

http://search.msn.com/preview.aspx?&q=VTOL
VTOL

http://search.msn.com/preview.aspx?&q=Ducted+Fan+Technology
Ducted Fan Technology

http://members.aon.at/pks.or.at/news_e.html
V. Schauberger


http://www.vortexscience.com/
W. Baumgartiner

http://www.rexresearch.com/
REX Research

Robert A. Patterson
Engineering Specialist
http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/

Robert A. Patterson
05-13-2004, 03:48 PM
Hello! :wavey:

Everybody looks like Ill be attending the conference hosted by TeslaTech and the Institute of New Energy.

Steven R. Elswick of Extraordinary Technology Magazine has invited me to attend their prestigious technology conference. I will discus Vortex Mechanics Free Energy and the RIW, of course Ill bring the QEG-circuit too, working or not.

2004 Extraordinary Technology Conference

--- Conference Session 6 --- Alternative Energy Technology 2:30pm: Robert A. Patterson

http://www.teslatech.info/ttevents/2004conf/prgframe.htm Program Menu


http://www.teslatech.info/ttevents/2004conf/program11.pdf PDF article

Thank You

Robert A. Patterson
Engineering Specialist
http://quantumgravitics.tripod.com/