What's your language of choice?

[Hulaboy]

Just curious...do we have any programmers in the house? What languages do you program in? SPAMAnybody know openGL? I could sure use the help right now...hahaha! Me, I usually do C, C++, Java. SPAMPerhaps this summer I'll tackle Perl and PHP.

[Keefe]

I know perl and i am working on tackling PHP. SPAMHey if you know of, or find any tutorials put the links here!!

[Digital_Vixen]

http://www.phpbuilder.com/ SPAM( Word. ) Explore and have fun, very informative about PHP. SPAM;D

[Grinnin Reaper]

I like basic. SPAMThe orignal basic. SPAMLike 10 goto 20 command line type stuff myself. SPAM;D, SPAMSorry getting reminisant. SPAMJust curios if anyone knows where I could get somemore information on VB and some software to start learning more about it. SPAMAlso for someone starting back into this (I knew Basic well but alas it is a lost art form I'm afraid), is there a better starting point to get back into programming. SPAMAll this perl and Java stuff seems like quite a jump to me. SPAMBy the way Long live DOS 5.0.

[Hulaboy]

Hi Savage. SPAMHehehe...yeah, I also miss those good 'ole days of BASIC. SPAMI learned how to program in BASIC when I used to own a Commodore 128D! SPAM*sigh* SPAMThose were the glory days! I really don't know if there are any free programs for VB. SPAMI know that it is bundled with the Visual Studio Suite and you can probably get it as a stand alone copy either from Micro$oft or some online store. SPAMThere are places that you can get it for an educational discount as well. Of course, if you look hard enough I'm sure you'll run into a site that has it for download somewhere...you never heard that from me. Hahaha! I guess there goes that theory of me being anonymous. SPAM

I think a good place to start with an object oriented type of language would either be C++ or Java. SPAMAs the program evolution goes, Java came out of C++ and C++ came out of C. SPAMJava is good in a way because it does a lot of automated things for you that you would have had to take care of yourself in C++. SPAMOn the other hand, C++ is still pretty much THE language of choice (aside from C) in the industry. SPAMLet me know if you need any help.

[Grinnin Reaper]

Thanks, I just stumpled acrossed a link to this site on geek.com curtosey of Digital Vixen I believe and really love it. SPAMBeen trying to get back into computers again after a long time away. SPAMOne of my last classes was in High School and my instructor refused to teach Windows. SPAMHe said it was a passing fad and that crash happy program would fall on its face. SPAMWell at least he was right on one account. SPAMWhat I woulnd't give to find some good and current distro's of DOS and some good apps know what I mean? SPAMAh well guess I gotta get with the times and through out the commadore 64. SPAMYhea it took a long time to load but it was instantly on when ya flipped the switch. SPAMNo stinking boot process here. SPAMGotta love it, gotta move on.

[wolford]

Here's another site you might want to try, http://www.devshed.com/
I'm still wet behind the ears, myself. Trying to catch up with the latter part of the 20th century and having a BLAST doing it...

[bits-boy]

I'm a programmer (in my own eyes anyways) back in the old days I started with basic, then Asm, then pascal, then Vc++, now I'm a big Vb 6.0 fan. I like vb because its a rapid app. development language, so my customers don't have to wait very long for cool programs. No matter how visual C++ gets, it will never be as quick to develop in (not that I haven't developed large programs in it). OpenGL is just a library for programming graphics, I don't think that you need to use any one programming language to implement it.

[Propig]

Depends on what is being developed. VB is great with storing and displaying related records, but doesn't work well for games and stuff. I am still learning C++ and Java is just plain fun (to me anyway).

[2Up]

I'd like any help anyone can give particularly with PHP, SQL, even advanced HTML. SPAMAlso any tips on using Apache Web Server would be good. SPAMI have the following sites for tutorials etc but any more good ones would be appreciated.

for SQL SPAM http://sqlcourse.com/

for PHP SPAMhttp://php.resourceindex.com/

For a ton of authoring languages, try SPAMhttp://www.stars.com/Authoring/Languages/

and same site for PHP
http://www.stars.com/Authoring/Languages/PHP/

[shadowsun]

hey, i'm lookn' for the graphics.h c++ head file.
i'm looked for it on the web, but can't find one without errors in it. SPAMif you've good a error free one, please let me know.

thanks alot,
~j~

[techman]

you realize thats for borland?

[grepAll]

Cee-Plus-Plus, natch'

For versatility, portability, and a well-established code and documentation base, you won't beat it. To learn/improve, I'd recommend the MS VCC IDE... the IDE actually helps you with the syntax, so your' learning curve isn't quite so steep. Once you get the hang of it, you can hop onto Unix and use gcc or what-not. This is a very powerfull language, but the Object-Oriented Paradigm shift puts some people off at first. If you use C++, you should take the time to learn OO Design and UML. A great tool for doing this is a diagramming app like Visio or Rational's Rose. Gee, can you tell that I'm a software engineer? :)

Visual Basic is easy and fast, but I've had some minor trouble with it in the past. Especially when I use Microsoft Access for a data source! If you want to do web apps, however, this is an excellent language. The designers built tons of functionality into VB... for example, I can build a dialog box with a fully functional web browser in just a few lines of code. Sockets are a snap as well.

Perl is also a great language. What typically happens is that you write a short Perl script to do some task, and it eventually develops into a full-blown tool!

[daluu]

I'm just an amateur programmer learning C++ and PHP. Both are great languages but I like the web-based capabilities of PHP. Too bad PHP programs/scripts can't be compiled into local executable programs like C++.

Which language is more popular and superior? Perl or PHP? I personally prefer PHP. PHP just seems simpler to learn.

Last, is Visual Basic mostly "visual"? I guess so 'cause of its name huh. After learning HTML, PHP, and now C++ for a while, I feel unaccustomed to a mostly visual programming language. I don't know how or where to start.

[daluu]

For any who work with visual development platforms like Visual Basic, you can try Magenta Multimedia Tools, a new visual development platform. And it's free. To find out more go to http://www.magentammt.com

[Kickswitch]

I use Chinaman.

[Simo]

Delphi....followed closely by English

[JohnDoez]

Perl or mod-Perl why ? its amazing, it can stand alone or be used in C / C++

not unlike CoBol which used fortran / pascal

I've put together a module that emulates the Apache request object from CGI.

I stripped the CGI-dependent code from WWW::AdManager, and concentrated on getting the mod_perl-only module working through CGI. The result was Apache::Emulator.

Why would anyone want to do that ?
well it sure better than using unix / apache for setting up a server, and for people with limited Programming abilities, they can set up an apache server and manage it,

seems to me that I always try to get the best outta nearly extinct languages and O/S..

Perl specially mod_perl has not even started to cover its potential as a language..

also my ex employer / Company:
Company I worked SPAMfor had over 159 RF data collection devices world-wide. SPAMThe complete application is written in PERL, C++, and KORN SHELL scripts running at first on SCO UNIX but currently on HP UX. SPAMThere are 425 PERL programs, 5 C++ programs, and 132 KORN SHELL scripts. SPAMThe system is a completely home grown warehouse management system. SPAMAll menus, data handling, validations, loggings, device control, and system handling is written in PERL. SPAMThe KORN SHELL scripts are used for routine housekeeping. SPAMThe C++ programs are the "PIPES" into a SYBASE database. SPAMData and data requests are formatted and then placed into the "PIPES" which then pass the data to the correct SQL script to be handled.

SO, PERL isn't just for the WEB (although I do some CGI scripting as the Webmaster for my company), it can be for any type of application.

and last but not least, I am writing my own language based on Fortan and Pascal.....

1. Language Elements of TALC
1.1 Source Form
TALC source code is written on lines, which are defined as sequnces of characters terminated by a linefeed and/or carriage return character. SPAMThere is no limit on the length of
a line.
TALC allows any line to carry a traling comment field, following an exclamation mark (!). SPAMFor example,
x1 = (-b+sqrt(b^2-4*a*c))/(2*a)! solve the quadrati equation

just dabling at present but it will be worth while , I hope

[Uranium-235]

PHP

[lynchmob]

That site was great! SPAMThis is why I joined the forum to begin with. SPAMAll the heads thinking together really save a lot of time.

[Keefe]

I always post the links of cool sites that i find... i also encoureage everyone else to do it. SPAMIt builds a great knowledgebase of information!