so an ipod is inferior cause it doesnt support wma's? :/

WMA's are QUALITY. Like really nice CD rips.

I know they are, they are smaller than mp3's too.. isn't the end of the world though..

The Zen, iRiver, and others are better than the iPod, though, anyways. iPod just has the biggest name at the moment.

they might be better, but its still pretty nice.. though i dont have one atm, nor do i plan on buying one. I think they are all good in their own ways..

I have an i-river and am a little disappointed..

it has frozen up on me 3 or 4 times.. (really annoying.. have to poke something up its butt)

The interface is lousy compared to the ipod's...

and with the ipod's price drop, the only thing the i-river has over the ipod is battery life and format support.... (sure is nice to play ogg's) 8)

[but I do have the older one.. the new one looks nice)

I don't realy think that iPod is realy good player at all. MS is god damn.... I use my Icemat audio. Small, 256 usb player. I don't need anything else. And if i need some new music i can easily download it again. That's the deal.

If u don't know - https://www.icemat.com/shop/default.asp?main=products

Try SoundTaxi! It helps me to cut DRM protection from audio!
http://www.soundtaxi.info/

i need one.....
 

:cry: i need an mp3 player that holds at least a GB of memory!
i had one until it got stolen, i'm gonna beat that kid up....