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Aemon_ 12-09-2004 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason425
oh and I don't think there is such a thing as a car geek.. those are called ricers :lol:

haha. but if you are into cars that are supposed to be fast, not econo-boxes then i guess you could be called a car geek :nod:

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Jason425 12-09-2004 11:51 AM

if anything, i'm a MPG geek :P

vee_ess 12-09-2004 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aemon_
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Originally Posted by Jason425
oh and I don't think there is such a thing as a car geek.. those are called ricers :lol:

haha. but if you are into cars that are supposed to be fast, not econo-boxes then i guess you could be called a car geek :nod:

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Yeah, I'm not a ricer and never will be. A ricer is someone who tries to make a car that isn't supposed to be fast look and supposedly sound fast, and, on occassion, from parts out of a Civic magazine, put enough parts to get the speeds comparable to a van.

Whats MPG?

Aemon_ 12-09-2004 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by vee_ess
Whats MPG?

yes, i was curious about this too.

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StinkyMojo 12-09-2004 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Aemon_
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Originally Posted by vee_ess
Whats MPG?

yes, i was curious about this too.

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miles per gallon...

all i have to say about that is :rolleyes:

Jason425 12-09-2004 10:00 PM

jeez vee i'm suprised..




yea :rolleyes: that's why you bought a low-end civic that is bone-stock? All they have is decent mpg

StinkyMojo 12-09-2004 10:39 PM

wow.. anyone in here thinks a civic sedan LX is low-end? heh.. bone-stock? learn a TEENY bit about cars before you open up your jabber and embarass yourself.

Jason425 12-09-2004 11:35 PM

1) yours is an LX, 2) you have a spoiler that's sitting in the garage... gj crapping the thread.. what'd you get on the geek test

StinkyMojo 12-09-2004 11:58 PM

don't blame me on crapping the thread.. stop making stupid comments about things you don't know.. what if i have the spoiler sitting in my garage? does that bother you?

Aemon_ 12-10-2004 09:12 AM

well just to crap on the thread further, a honda civic sedan lx is not high end.

for one, its a 4 cylinder. two, it makes 115hp and 110lbft torque, my wife's saturn makes 105hp. its SOHC and doesn't even have VTEC, the ex model does though. and a spoiler wouldn't do a lick of good on a civic, due to the fact that its fwd. (from automobiles.honda.com, http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...me=Civic+Sedan)

now, is a new honda civic a nice car? yes. does it have awesome has mileage? yes. is it probably decently zippy and fun to drive? yes. high end? no. race car? no.

i'm not making fun or anything, cause my saturn is no speed demon. once it gets going its fun to drive, i've taken it up to about 105mph (bounced on the rev limiter) but it takes 2 years to get up to speed. economy is the name of the game for almost any honda but the S2000.

my $0.02.

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StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Aemon_
well just to crap on the thread further, a honda civic sedan lx is not high end.

for one, its a 4 cylinder. two, it makes 115hp and 110lbft torque, my wife's saturn makes 105hp. its SOHC and doesn't even have VTEC, the ex model does though. and a spoiler wouldn't do a lick of good on a civic, due to the fact that its fwd. (from automobiles.honda.com, http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...me=Civic+Sedan)

now, is a new honda civic a nice car? yes. does it have awesome has mileage? yes. is it probably decently zippy and fun to drive? yes. high end? no. race car? no.

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it is a new 2004 sedan lx.. ALL civics are 4 cylinder.. of course its understandable its no speed demon, but saying that its a low end civic is just plain wrong compared to other civics, there are 3 other models under it. Overall, of course its not high end, I would call a TT high end, but if you were talking in the lines of just civics is all im saying..
anyhoo,

22% geek.

Jason425 12-10-2004 11:06 AM

nice flipflop...

Aemon is right about econoboxes.. there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, but calling it a "performance car" is a gross exaggeration.

StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 11:11 AM

[quote="Jason425"]nice flipflop...
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I never did.. read it nice and easy so you can understand it. I still am backing my point about the car compared to CIVIC series.. not OTHER cars.

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Originally Posted by Jason425
but calling it a "performance car" is a gross exaggeration.

Nowhere did I say it was a performance car
:shhh:

Jason425 12-10-2004 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMojo
wow.. anyone in here thinks a civic sedan LX is low-end? heh.. bone-stock? learn a TEENY bit about cars before you open up your jabber and embarass yourself.


oh really?

If it's not low-end, that means you think it's high end... and if it's not even v-tec, it's not even a high end civic.. and it is bone stock.. and even if that spoiler were on, like aemon said, it wouldn't make any diff...


:sleep:

cherrypie 12-10-2004 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason425
Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyMojo
wow.. anyone in here thinks a civic sedan LX is low-end? heh.. bone-stock? learn a TEENY bit about cars before you open up your jabber and embarass yourself.


oh really?

If it's not low-end, that means you think it's high end... and if it's not even v-tec, it's not even a high end civic.. and it is bone stock.. and even if that spoiler were on, like aemon said, it wouldn't make any diff...


:sleep:


:nod: he's right

StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason425
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Originally Posted by StinkyMojo
wow.. anyone in here thinks a civic sedan LX is low-end? heh.. bone-stock? learn a TEENY bit about cars before you open up your jabber and embarass yourself.


oh really?

If it's not low-end, that means you think it's high end... and if it's not even v-tec, it's not even a high end civic.. and it is bone stock.. and even if that spoiler were on, like aemon said, it wouldn't make any diff...


:sleep:

no shit it wont a make difference.. the intention of putting it is for looks, simply adding it won't give me +3 to speed :rolleyes: . do you even know what vtec DOES.. you are making it sound like God.. its better than a standard but not by a whole lot.

Jason425 12-10-2004 12:08 PM

My point about the spoiler was that it is stock, when you said it wasn't..
If you'd like to read about v-tec, you can so here: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...113_0307_vtec/
The point of a spoiler is to give the car downward force so that you have more control at high speeds. However, they also increase drag and therefore decrease efficiency. Since you won't even be goingthat fast, it's kind of silly.

StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason425
My point about the spoiler was that it is stock, when you said it wasn't..
If you'd like to read about v-tec, you can so here: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...113_0307_vtec/
The point of a spoiler is to give the car downward force so that you have more control at high speeds. However, they also increase drag and therefore decrease efficiency. Since you won't even be goingthat fast, it's kind of silly.

you don't have to be cute and send me that link.. i already know what it is.. and you know that i do. And i know what the point of a spoiler is. I don't care really. I like my car a lot, and I'm only 18.. Everything comes and goes.

Aemon_ 12-10-2004 12:11 PM

its basically variable valve timing. when you reach a certain RPM (imports will rev to the moon and back) then the compter tells the cams to shift- the cams on vtec engine have double the lobes, the double set is higher- so the shift moves the higher lobes into place, rasing the valves a little higher, therefore rasing perfomance at higher rpms.

my explanation.

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edit: oops, a little late

StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Aemon_
its basically variable valve timing. when you reach a certain RPM (imports will rev to the moon and back) then the compter tells the cams to shift- the cams on vtec engine have double the lobes, the double set is higher- so the shift moves the higher lobes into place, rasing the valves a little higher, therefore rasing perfomance at higher rpms.

my explanation.

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the the best short explanation I've heard :lol:

Aemon_ 12-10-2004 12:17 PM

thanks stinky, i like cars. more american or european cars, but you just cant beat a good ole 240Z - i love those. or a skyline, /me shivers, nice car. acutally, i have a friend who works for Infinify (same as nissan) and he said that Infinity is importing the Skyline as an Infinity. Skyline in america. too bad i'm a broke intern.

edit: i just remembered that this isnt a car thread.

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StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 12:20 PM

the skyline is one of my fav cars.. believe it or not, I've actually seen one last year in socal! it was so awesome..


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Originally Posted by Aemon_
edit: i just remembered that this isnt a car thread.

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meh.. this is funner ;)

Aemon_ 12-10-2004 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMojo
the skyline is one of my fav cars.. believe it or not, I've actually seen one last year in socal! it was so awesome..

oh yeah? you know theyre illegal to import to america? cool that someone had one and got away with it. i've heard the cops are pretty hard on the import guys on that coast.

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StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aemon_
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Originally Posted by StinkyMojo
the skyline is one of my fav cars.. believe it or not, I've actually seen one last year in socal! it was so awesome..

oh yeah? you know theyre illegal to import to america? cool that someone had one and got away with it. i've heard the cops are pretty hard on the import guys on that coast.

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yeah i know they are illegal thats why i was like OMG!!!!! haha..

Uranium-235 12-10-2004 04:24 PM

keep on topic guys

StinkyMojo 12-10-2004 04:32 PM

yes Mr. Breen. :P

Prometheus 12-10-2004 08:38 PM

total geek


that was long.

CiKoTiC 12-10-2004 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Uranium-235
keep on topic guys

I have a ROOMBA Vacuum. :P

vee_ess 12-12-2004 04:12 PM

Skylines are illegal in the U.S. as they are built from the factory. You can do certain things to it to make it street legal in the U.S., however, that costs nearly as much as the car itself in some cases.

Aemon_ 12-13-2004 09:13 AM

i've personally been looking at the new highlanders and 4runners. need somthing to thow my board on top of, and eventually haul kids when we have them (we're on the 5 year plan, it has now been 2, time is running out).

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Jason425 12-13-2004 09:39 AM

get a prius! :D

StinkyMojo 12-13-2004 11:28 AM

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get a prius! :D

he might as well get a pinto... looks better too..

Aemon_ 12-13-2004 11:39 AM

yes, i want somthing useful.

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vee_ess 12-13-2004 02:30 PM

What price range are you looking for, and what type of vehicle?
Get a '68 Firebird... those are useful for putting punks in Neons and Civics with ironing boards on their trunk in their place.

Aemon_ 12-13-2004 02:52 PM

looking for a smallish (i hate those tanks), but capable suv. if new, < $25grand. looking into toyota highlanders and 4runners. needs to be able to handle a canoe and kayak (at the same time), surf board, and kids (in a few years). and of course tons of hardware (many bestbuy runs, when i'm rich that is).

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eviltechie 12-13-2004 05:06 PM

new civics arent really low end
jason425, you probably havent driven a low end car before
lol

try out my 98 Escort Wagon sometime
new civic is much nicer than it lol

i almost crashed twice having hydroplantings in the same location in 1 season... the rainy season

its scary driving my car at a high speed...

StinkyMojo 12-13-2004 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by eviltechie
new civics arent really low end
jason425, you probably havent driven a low end car before
lol

well he does drive an 88' oldsmobile. :eatcursor:

eviltechie 12-13-2004 05:24 PM

lol

then the new civic isnt low end
hondas are so reliable
so are toyotas

damn it
when i get some $$$$$$
ill buy a Sequoia and put 24's on it
paint everything black too, no silver trim

Jason425 12-13-2004 08:41 PM

88 olds cutlass calais limited edition baby.. 2.3 liters of 4 cylinder 3 speed auto goodness! 8)

The prius is huge.. it's not even in the compact class.. AND it gets ridiculous mileage.. I just don't like the looks of the newest model

vee_ess 12-13-2004 11:59 PM

For the record, Civics are low end. Used low end cars will of course be lower, but that doesn't mean Civics are not low end. Hondas, Toyotas, GMs, Fords, Chryslers, Nissans, they are all lower end vehicles. Mid-range would be like Acuras, Audis, most Mercs, BMWs, Volvos, Jags, Lexus, Infinitys, etc. Higher end vehicles would be like Porsches, Bentleys, Aston Martins, etc.


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