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Evand 09-05-2002 06:18 PM

CPU Overheating?
 
I have a celeron 800 and a asus cuv266 and asus probe says that my motherboard is at about 30-35 degrees celcius and my cpu temp sits around 43-45 degrees c. both at idle. After i quit a game or something it says that my cpu is at about 57 degrees or so but then quikly drops. Are these temperatures normal? The graphics get messed up when im gaming and i need to know if my card is messed or my cpu is overheating. (asus geforce4 mx440. just got it, motherboard too. eitherway im getting a new one anyway, don't like it too much) I only have one fan, the one that came with the computer and it runs at about 4400 rpm. is there a way to make it faster? Could that be the problem? I don't know much about overclocking or anything like that so someone please help me.
By the way, i had the store install the mobo for me, wasn't me)

eviltechie 09-05-2002 10:01 PM

that is quite normal so dont be too worried
its the average temp for lower performance CPUs
and celeron can stand up to about 80C

is it a socket 370?

you could buy a better HSF to get a cooler performance and safer use

just dont be too worried with it, but to be on the safer side, maybe change the HSF
i would suggest swiftech's MCXC370

which can be found on price grabber for about 40 USD

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g...4d3c626a2136d/

Tcbil 09-24-2002 06:51 AM

Doessomeone know up to what temperature a t-bird 1.2 can go

Wampa 09-24-2002 04:49 PM

I'm not 100% sure what the actual safe limits are (AMD says that they are okay up to 75C or so, but I would never let them get near that). My 1.4ghz T-bird used to hit 61C at times in the summer with the stock cooling and generic thermal goop before I bought a new heatsink, fan, and TherMagic. As long as it doesn't crack 60C or so, you should be okay, but if it gets any higher than that, consider buying a new heatsink. I ended up with an AX-7 and a low-RPM 80mm fan, and my rig now runs 44C full load, when I have it overclocked to 1553mhz, it runs at about 48C full load. So it does the job well.

ldonyo 09-24-2002 05:41 PM

I found this on AMD's site. You'll need Acrobat Reader to view it. On page 33 (Section 5 in the Table of Contents) there is a chart showing the maximum die temperatures for Athlons from 900MHz to 1.4GHz.

For those of us with XP processors, There is this. Go to page 35 (Section 6) for the chart.

Basically, all XPs and Athlons less than 1133MHz have a maximum core temperature of 90C. Athlons from 1133MHz to 1400MHz have a maximum temperature of 95C. These temps are measured from the die itself, so the temp you see in something like Motherboard Monitor is probably not going to be accurate. I would suggest staying below a reported temperature of 60C, with under 50C being my personal preference. Of course, lower will be better. ;)

T-shirt 09-24-2002 10:18 PM

Re: CPU Overheating?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evand
I have a celeron 800 and a asus cuv266 and asus probe says that my motherboard is at about 30-35 degrees celcius and my cpu temp sits around 43-45 degrees c. both at idle. After i quit a game or something it says that my cpu is at about 57 degrees or so but then quikly drops. Are these temperatures normal? The graphics get messed up when im gaming and i need to know if my card is messed or my cpu is overheating. (asus geforce4 mx440. just got it, motherboard too. eitherway im getting a new one anyway, don't like it too much) I only have one fan, the one that came with the computer and it runs at about 4400 rpm. is there a way to make it faster? Could that be the problem? I don't know much about overclocking or anything like that so someone please help me.
By the way, i had the store install the mobo for me, wasn't me)


My first guest, based on the numbers you posted, is it's the GPU or memory overheating, not the cpu. But it could be a chipset or driver problem
Try lowering the resolution for a while and see if the gliches disappear.
One fan is probably not enough! what are your case temps after playing for a while?

eviltechie 09-24-2002 11:00 PM

the cpu isnt overheating

it is quite safe

just a full list of processors' electrical specifications, take a look at this page

http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm

one fan is enough along with another in the PSU

but if you have extra room for another fan, it would be wise to spend a few bucks investing in one. better to be safe than sorry.

streetskater 11-05-2002 03:17 AM

90 degree eh!? ALL I know is that if I ever see my Athlon 2100 going past 60 I'm gonna break out the ice packs.

eviltechie 11-05-2002 03:24 AM

lol

my 1.2 athlon tb is 48 C now

Zyx 11-09-2002 02:46 PM

ice pack anyone?
 
My Athlon Xp 2000 with a GeForce4 has an average of 65, going at 70 when I play for a while... My heatsink runs at 6100rpm so I guess it's ok.

I know I can handle up to 90(?) but I believe it's a bit high... What's the best heatsink out there? or what can I do to cool it down besides throwing ice cubes on it?

streetskater 11-09-2002 03:08 PM

Zyx,
I say those temps are way in the high range. It's not just a matter of what temp will cause absolute failure--you need to be aware that high temps in that range are stressing your components.

I have a athlon XP 2100 with a Radeon 8500 with 128Meg of memory. It's in the same league as your Gforce in that it has it's own onboard fan. Anyway I'm looking at CPU temps in the 49° to 52° range and core temps in the 25° ot 30° range--- and that's about as high as I'm comfortable with.

Edited to add:
Make that a Radeon 8500 with 64 Meg.


My CPU fan is nothing extraordinary and spins in at 5400 rmp.

I'd be concerned that your CPU fan running at 6100 isn't doing a better job. Generally only the best extra heavy duty CPU fans run at that speed. I wouldn't expect to see your XP 2000 reach above 40° with that kind of fan.

What to do?
What are you using to get your readings? Are you sure it's accurate?

Did you get a good connection between your heatsink and your CPU with a good thermal compound?

Are you getting enough air flow through your case? You should have a minimum of 2 case fans NOT counting the power supply fan--And I've seen as many as 4 used.


Also,
With those tiny fans used to cool the CPU, MO core, and graphics cards--when the blades build up with dust it cuts their airflow down a lot. Get a "dust remover" air spray and clean them periodically --I use Qtips to clean my fan blades every few months.

eviltechie 11-09-2002 05:15 PM

i think one problem lies between the hs and the cpu for my setup

compound might be too little or something...

and if it werent chipped off in 1 corner of the die, my CAK-38 with delta fan could bring the temp down to 42c

CB-Byte 11-24-2002 10:11 AM

:nod: Yes that's correct! >50 deg. celsius...I've encountered dozens of reports & complains from my friends. Try removing the Heatsink, Clean the surface (both the CPU & HS) and put some (as little as possible) thermal grease (Silicon compound), It works!

>:) The coolest solution? Water Cooling!

CB-Byte
---------------------
Pentium 4, 1.6A @ 2.24 Mhz OCe'd (Very Stable : 38 deg. Celsius Idle, Room Temp : 32-35 deg. Celsius)
Asus P4B533 (Very Stable : 32min-40max deg Celsius)
256 MB PC2100
Asus V3800 32MB :(
with all the trimmings...

Unfortunately I don't have a digital cam...Not yet! Hehehehe :rofl: i'l get one soon.

CHANG 01-31-2003 02:54 AM

amd t-bird 1.333
 
i have a Via KT 266 motherboard. is that good? and i overclocked my cpu to a 1.6 :) and i stilkl have temp from about 52 on full load. Should i get a better cooler. i have the stock one on cept w/ a 6500 rpm fan.

CHANG 01-31-2003 02:59 AM

I have a
t-bird 1.3 runnin at 1.6
gforce4 4600 128 ddr
7 "quite" fans(one squeks and is drivin me crazy.fell like i m in combat :/ )
Via KT 266 ddr
55 inch RCA bigscreen w/ vga port(hd tv)
and some glow :confused:

PalomInoBURN 03-26-2003 10:59 PM

temps
 
Yeah got my little 1.6GHZ (1900XP) running at 2.0Vcore and pressing 1.86GHZ. I am very happy with it, and it's temps hang around 40-45C idle, 50C load. Sounds like high temps but consider it's a 1.75 VCORE stock and running 2.0V thats not too shabby, thanks to www.dangerden.com H20 Cooling HEHEH :biggrin:


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