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some one 10-07-2002 11:59 PM

small size os
 
i need a small operating system that i could put on an old tandy comp. im goin to format it than out sumthin else on it. smaller than 600k if possible.

eviltechie 10-08-2002 12:03 AM

FreeBSD?

xMerCLorDx 10-08-2002 12:18 AM

PicoBSD biaaatch :) :biggrin: 8)

http://people.freebsd.org/~picobsd/picobsd.html

eviltechie 10-08-2002 02:01 AM

same shiat, different pile
:lol:

thats nice

i need to learn more FreeBSD commands so i can use my old comp as a firewall

xMerCLorDx 10-08-2002 09:16 AM

www.freebsd.org/handbook/

RTFM 8)

hehe :wavey:

eviltechie 10-08-2002 01:02 PM

what does RTFM mean??

THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Uranium-235 10-08-2002 01:13 PM

Read the *Freaking Manual

*usually replaced a worse word, beginning with F

eviltechie 10-08-2002 01:38 PM

bleh

so much to read

so time consuming

Quote:

To display the configuration for the network interfaces on your system, enter the folowing command:

% ifconfig
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:a0:cc:da:da:da
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
status: active
dc1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
ether 00:a0:cc:da:da:db
media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP
status: no carrier
lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
tun0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500

Omega_work 10-08-2002 01:39 PM

Uh, good luck with FreeBSD:
Quote:

Posted on the FreeBSD manual
A minimal installation of FreeBSD takes as little as 100 MB of disk space.

Omega_work 10-08-2002 01:40 PM

Eviltechie: Ewww, is that like, the process necessary for Ethernet configuration? It seems like it'd take like, two days, just to get the OS running at a minimal capacity, if it keeps going at that pace.

eviltechie 10-08-2002 01:43 PM

no kidding

too time consuming

not my way of working....

yes, im a lazyboy

Uranium-235 10-08-2002 02:02 PM

this guy I know told me about this firewall OS. He said it didn't require a hard drive. you could fit it on a floppy and it was configurable via web interface. Now to remember where it was

eviltechie 10-08-2002 05:33 PM

floppyfw?

xMerCLorDx 10-08-2002 10:49 PM

do you guys read the entire thing? yeesh
this is what i like:

http://people.freebsd.org/~picobsd/picobsd.html

but heres floppyfw:

http://www.zelow.no/floppyfw/


also if you would read what it actually SAYS:
Quote:

To display the configuration for the network interfaces on your system, enter the folowing command:

% ifconfig
ifconfig being the command, and the display for the config is all the crap below.... :shake:

Quote:

dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:a0:cc:da:da:da
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
status: active
dc1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
ether 00:a0:cc:da:da:db
media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP
status: no carrier
lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
tun0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500

eviltechie 10-09-2002 12:37 AM

stupid handbook...

it just says to type in that whole thing
located in "6.6.2 Configuring the Network Card"
on this page
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO...ook/x6696.html

here is an exact cut and paste quote

Quote:

Once the right driver is loaded for the network card, the card needs to be configured. As with many other things, the network card may have been configured at installation time by sysinstall.

To display the configuration for the network interfaces on your system, enter the folowing command:

% ifconfig
dc0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:a0:cc:da:da:da
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
status: active
dc1: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255
ether 00:a0:cc:da:da:db
media: Ethernet 10baseT/UTP
status: no carrier
lp0: flags=8810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
tun0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1500

Note: Old versions of FreeBSD may require the -a option following ifconfig(8), for more details about the correct syntax of ifconfig(8), please refer to the manual page. Note also that entries concerning IPv6 (inet6 etc.) were omitted in this example.


xMerCLorDx 10-09-2002 06:07 PM

and if you read about 15 lines down...

Quote:

To configure your card, you need root privileges. The network card configuration can be done from the command line with ifconfig(8) but you would have to do it after each reboot of the system. The file /etc/rc.conf is where to add the network card's configuration.

Open /etc/rc.conf in your favorite editor. You need to add a line for each network card present on the system, for example in our case, we added these lines:

ifconfig_dc0="inet 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0"
ifconfig_dc1="inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 media 10baseT/UTP"
see?

% is the shell prompt... all that other stuff is not the command..when you just type "ifconfig" that status is what it displays... if you notice the part of the command being typed is bolded..

let me show you an example... ( on that same link you gave me about a page down )
Quote:

% ping -c5 192.168.1.3
PING 192.168.1.3 (192.168.1.3): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.082 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.074 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.3: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.076 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.3: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.108 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.076 ms
you don't type out all that...... only those on the line of the shell prompt (i.e. "%")

eviltechie 10-09-2002 09:20 PM

i see i see

i have a whole lot to learn...

hey, what does -c5 mean after ping command
does it mean ping using 5 packets?

xMerCLorDx 10-10-2002 12:20 AM

tru, and also to find out what all the switches (i.e. -c5) you can just read the man files:

"man ping"

it tells you more then u every wanna know for the command

most every program has a man file to teach ya what u need to know.

once you know the syntax tho its pretty simple ( i have a lot to learn too i'm a novice to normal user..i can get around and install a couple things )

Omega 10-10-2002 06:46 PM

Getting a little OT, but I think if I had a *third* computer, I'd consider making it a Linux/BSD box, and configuring like, *one* thing per day, until it was up and running in like, a month, heh. I'm not sure what I'd do with it though...but the experience would be very useful, IMO.

Bear 10-11-2002 02:29 AM

I would go with floppyfw

all I had to do was
-building the machine with two nics and floppy
-make the floppy disc
-put username and pass on the floppy disc (in config)
-start using it.

eviltechie 10-11-2002 04:46 PM

why only 2 NICs?

dont u need one coming from the modem, one to comp1, and one more to comp2 so total of 3 NICs?

Uranium-235 10-11-2002 08:05 PM

http://www.bbiagent.com/en/index.html

eviltechie 10-11-2002 11:29 PM

the more i hear about gigabit ethernet, the more i want it...

but of course, i dont even have a T3 or T1 to go with it
so there is no point for me...

vee_ess 10-12-2002 04:02 AM

I'm surprised people haven't started calling me RTFM yet. I can't stand manuals.

xMerCLorDx 10-12-2002 11:23 AM

well they can't "call you RTFM," its telling someone to do something..

manuals tell ya everything d00d

Bear 10-12-2002 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eviltechie
why only 2 NICs?

dont u need one coming from the modem, one to comp1, and one more to comp2 so total of 3 NICs?

one to modem one to switch/hub
switch/hub to comp 1-4 or 1-8 or 1-16 etc.

unless u use BNC/coax no hub needed

vee_ess 10-12-2002 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xMerCLorDx
well they can't "call you RTFM," its telling someone to do something..

manuals tell ya everything d00d

What I meant was that people would likely be saying it to me so often, they started just saying that only to me, and then just got used to saying it and started referring to me by it.

eviltechie 10-12-2002 02:15 PM

no bear

i thought we are talking about using this as a router
and if its a router, why does it need another switch/hub since it has the feature already?


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