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Vapor 12-26-2002 01:00 PM

Build The Best PC
 
Ok this is kinda a game but not really, in your opinion build the best (resonable, meaning no duel processors, 350 gig hd, etc) computer setup possible and try to give as much info about each item (link, price, etc). This will be kinda fun if people get into it, so get to it hop hop!

Prometheus 12-26-2002 01:57 PM

There is no answer to the question because it depends on the owners

Interests
Plan of Use
Wallet

In my Opinion tho

I would like a

Pentium 2.0 ghz with HT
A Geforce 4 MX
512 mb RAM
A 10 GB HD for music and other stuff
and a 40 gb for..well.... everything else
A creative Inspire 5.1 (affordable)

I would get this all at the usual places
Ebay
Pricewatch
Tiger Direct

Why are you asking this question anyway?

Vapor 12-26-2002 04:39 PM

Thats what I mean, if you had 3k in money or so would would you get for a top of the line system. This is just an opinion question. I just like to see the variety of what people would want.

accurateimage 12-26-2002 09:36 PM

Haha I am building a $3000 system tommorow will let ya know what all I buy *LOL* Also my current system is well over $3000 anyways :)

CB-Byte 12-27-2002 11:20 AM

Check this out, under 2000$US

Pentium 4 1.6A @ 2.24 Ghz Oce'd, watercool
Asus P4B533
256 MB PC2100
Chaintech Gforce4 MX440 64MB
Asus CD ROM
Asus CDR/W
40 GB Seagate Baracuda
40 GB Maxtor 7200 rpm
US Robotics 56K Voice/Data/Fax MODEM
Acer 34TL Monitor
Kenesis Maxim Keyboard/Agiler Mouse
5.1 Sound thru SPDIF ->7000watts Phillips Mini Compo.
Microtek Scanner
Wingman Joystick
HP 845C Deskjet Printer
Calcomp Techjet GT Plotter
1000watts Triplite UPS/AVR

75,000.00 Pesos (Php)

Well, this is not the best PC but the best ur wallet can afford.

Deathjag 12-27-2002 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CB-Byte
Check this out, under 2000$US

Pentium 4 1.6A @ 2.24 Ghz Oce'd, watercool
Asus P4B533
256 MB PC2100
Chaintech Gforce4 MX440 64MB
Asus CD ROM
Asus CDR/W
40 GB Seagate Baracuda
40 GB Maxtor 7200 rpm
US Robotics 56K Voice/Data/Fax MODEM
Acer 34TL Monitor
Kenesis Maxim Keyboard/Agiler Mouse
5.1 Sound thru SPDIF ->7000watts Phillips Mini Compo.
Microtek Scanner
Wingman Joystick
HP 845C Deskjet Printer
Calcomp Techjet GT Plotter
1000watts Triplite UPS/AVR

75,000.00 Pesos (Php)

Well, this is not the best PC but the best ur wallet can afford.

wow, that computer blowz, lol you can get this for 2000 Canadian, if your talking about 2000 american... well you can do alot better than that.

CB-Byte 12-28-2002 11:46 AM

its olready a big deal of money if ur going to look at our economy (Phily)...

I got the PC package for 22,000 pesos (Php)
that includes (P4 1.6, Asus P4B, 128 MB DDR, CDROM, 40G Seagate, HP Deskjet, US Rob. Modem) for 22,000.00 Pesos (Php)
22,000 Pesos
Got the CDRW for 3,500 Pesos
Gforce4 MX440 for 3,000 Pesos
Plotter 30,000 Pesos
40 G Maxtor 3,500 Pesos
Scanner 2,500 Pesos
Triplite UPS/AVR 6,000 Pesos
Keyboard/Mouse 3,000 Pesos
128 MB DDR 1,500 Pesos
Total 75,000 Pesos (1 Pesos = 51 $US)

It's olready a third of my annual income!!!

mad_ 01-03-2003 08:42 AM

I get 2.24 MHz on air.
gg

CiKoTiC 01-03-2003 09:50 AM

The best bang for the buck CPU has got to be the Intel 1.6a. Your almost guaranteed 2.2Ghz and if your lucky, you'll get 2.4Ghz out of it easily.

George 01-04-2003 11:40 PM

If you want to build a nice gaming pc for right now. I wouldn't go for the highest processor. Maybe an amd 2400XP+ with an ASUS NFORCE 2 bridge set. Def go with the Radeon 9700 Pro and cosair XMS ram. 40gb HD and up and the os would be: Win2k Pro. Runs games the best.

Jason425 01-27-2003 01:07 PM

Best value CPU = p4 1.6a.. but 2.4 ghz is getting too slow these days :cry:

Best Value Video Card = radeon 9500, then soft9700 mod it.

vee_ess 01-27-2003 01:25 PM

Man! No multi-processor setups!?! There goes my idea.

CB-Byte 01-28-2003 11:35 AM

That's BIG TIME! vee ess

what would be the cheapest Dual CPU set-up?

how much? what did u say? sumthing that i can't afford? huh?

eviltechie 01-28-2003 01:34 PM

lol my friend an i were joking
he said he is gonna get quad 3.06GHz HT CPUs
2GB if pc3700 ram
....

accurateimage 01-28-2003 03:02 PM

The best bang for your buck in a chip period is the tbred week 48-50 2100+ if you can get your hands on one :) I did hehehe, chip overclocks on "good" air stable to 190 x 13 or 2470 mhz or if unlocked to 2500mhz+ with lower multiplyers but higher fsb in the 200's. and have seen them around 2600mhz on water. Chip has no probs keeping up with my 2600+ chip and runs only $95 and will outrun most any P4 setup up to 3.1ghz on 3dmarks hehehe. But agaib the catch is you have to find a week 48 - week 50 chip, I got a week 50.

If anyone wants me to design them a real gaming pc for the buck just ask, I can design one sick tower in which I have done around 18-20 times now for other clients :) Results are guaranteed and they come pre-overclocked ;)

eviltechie 01-28-2003 03:13 PM

where did u get the tbred 2100+??
95 USD is cheap!

accurateimage 01-28-2003 03:34 PM

hehehe :shrug:

eviltechie 01-28-2003 04:06 PM

damn u bastad
where where where???? :confused: :lol:

MIK3 01-28-2003 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accurateimage
hehehe :shrug:

Lol! Priceless...."yeah, u see this great deal...go look for it!" haha

Is what im guessing he is trying to say

CiKoTiC 01-28-2003 07:25 PM

Quote:

Chip has no probs keeping up with my 2600+ chip and runs only $95 and will outrun most any P4 setup up to 3.1ghz on 3dmarks hehehe.
I WOULD have to see that to believe it. :P

eviltechie 01-28-2003 08:25 PM

i believe him

but it is not for show!
hehee :biggrin:

accurateimage 01-28-2003 08:30 PM

Here ya go if ya wanna see it *LOL* more than enougn proof

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=162024

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=161720

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=161796

eviltechie 01-28-2003 08:45 PM

if an athlon tbird 1.2GHz is running at 45C right now
how cool will it be with that tbred 2100 at both stock and OC'ed?

accurateimage 01-28-2003 08:51 PM

WIll let ya know :) My 2600+ ran at arond 92F stock and overclocked runs around 99-100F at 1.8v

eviltechie 01-28-2003 08:56 PM

thats pretty cool
hmm

are u using AC3 or nanotherm?

accurateimage 01-28-2003 08:56 PM

ac3 always

eviltechie 01-28-2003 09:04 PM

so its so overclockable
and cheap and sick fast
hmm

gotta get it!

CiKoTiC 01-29-2003 08:24 PM

Sorry AI, I don't see any proof at all. Until I see some hard benchmarks I would have to disagree with you. Forum posts are not proof enough for me. :biggrin:

AMD's CPU naming convention reflects a similar Intel CPU speed. I.E an AMD 2600+ is equal to an Intel 2.6Ghz CPU. NOT a 3.1Ghz CPU. Even overclocked to equal a 2800+, the 2600+ don't even come close to 3.1Ghz. I think your confusing the added speed of the nForce chipsets and the dual-channel DDR to be an added speed of AMD CPU's. A false assumption IMO. :P

Your compairing apples to oranges. I would bet an exact setup using the same speed memory and chipsets, the Intel 2.8 would out perform the AMD 2600 with ease. Even overclocked the results would be the same because the 2600 can't overclock to equal the speed of an AMD 3000+ (if there is such an animal). It simply wont overclock that high.

I'll even go one step further... If you had an AMD 2800+ overclocked to reflect 3.1Ghz, you would still be at the same compaired speed of an overclocked Intel 2.8Ghz at 3.1Ghz. What the heck, I'll even go out on a limb and assume your correct. You have a 2600 that you say outperforms an Intel 3.1. I have an Intel running at 3.1. :) Your 3dMark scores are only around 300 points higher than mine. HOWEVER, your basing your conclusions using a 9700 pro. I'm using a 9500 non-pro software modded to a 9700 non-pro. If I were using a 9700 pro overclocked as you, do you think I could make up that 300 points???

I guess that remains to be seen since I don't have a 9700 pro. :P

What do you think?

accurateimage 01-29-2003 09:25 PM

Hey bub, I underclocked my 9700 pro to the same clocks as yours and with my overclocked 2600+ I was within 300 points.

ALSO! WOHOO! as for proof hehe I am running my 2100+ that I have for sale which is running allot better #'s than posted after figuring it out more at 12x 190fsb. For $95 purchase price it will keep up with a 3.0ghz pent system, not outrun but keep up with hehehe and I will back that anytime! I am still testing the 2100 and pushing it, but making it run 1 hour of 3dse each time I go up a few settings, who knows it may ba as fast or faster than my 2600+ overclocked to I would have to say for a fact that is the best chip for the money available :) and my word is gold as you know, not some people ina forum posting! I will shoot ya some pics of wcpuid and also my 3dmark score with this baby! Just wanna make sure it is stable first :) ALso you are correct, I am useing dual channel nforce to make up for my lower bandwidth fsb but you run your ddr at 190x2 and I will run mine at 190x2 on a normal board and compare chips side by side and we will see who wins :) DOn;t wanna turn this into a flaming match but the b core tbreds are the best bang for the buck in the world right now as long as you get a pre 300 chip.

accurateimage 01-29-2003 09:40 PM

Oh yeah and just for the record :) I am running what would be called a amd 3150+ if you were to score it that way :) So yes they can overclock past the 3000+ mark with ease! I run mine 2600+ at 194fsb max and a mult of 12.5 You do the math :) Also allot of amd guys on supercooling are running what would be concidered a 4000+ hehehe

CiKoTiC 01-29-2003 09:46 PM

You know I still lub ya AI!!! :blush:

All I'm saying is that if we were running equal chipset, memory, and video, your overclocked 2600 wouldn't come close to my overclocked 2.8. Even the AMD nomenclature supports this. The reason I say this is because you keep stating the 2600 performs just as well as a 3.1 which common sense says otherwise. :P

Yes, I agree, with supported chipsets and memory, the 2600 can perform as well as the 2.8 or maybe even better, but not stock side by side as your posts imply. :biggrin:

You got a Hella system there and it perfoms most excellent. However, I think your comments on it are just a bit misleading because there is no proof to support your claims when compaired to an equally compaired system.

But, if you seriously think your system configured as it is.. overclocked and everything would outperform mine with a 9700 pro, then please send me your 9700 pro so I can run some tests to support your theory. :biggrin:

I promise I'll send it back. 8)

eviltechie 01-29-2003 09:56 PM

OC'ed 2600+ can beat P4 3.1

Gixxer420 01-29-2003 09:58 PM

:shake:

eviltechie 01-29-2003 09:59 PM

:nod:

yes it can

accurateimage 01-29-2003 10:03 PM

*LOL* I would send ya the 9700 pro but um... NO *LOL* What I am saying is that it will keep up with your system, not smoke it or anything. You have hella bandwidth on that rig of yours were as I peak at about 3.1 compared to your 3.7+ Also check this out :) You wanna see what a $100 chip can do from amd...?? Check out the below, I am still working on it :)

eviltechie 01-29-2003 10:15 PM

forget about sending him the 9700 pro

send me ur whole system!! :lol: :lol:

accurateimage 01-29-2003 10:38 PM

Just in, finished stability tests :) latest score 17552 at 192fsb. Runs within .5x of my $300 2600+ :) This particular chip will be for sale on ebay soon along with a sister chip to it hehehe. That is only 96mhz off of being my 2600+ and that is a stable overclock of 571mhz :) and a fsb increase of 59x2 mhz woohoo!

CiKoTiC 01-29-2003 10:39 PM

Hehe..

ET, stop smoking crack. It will stunt your growth. :P


AI, if you haven't figured it out yet, let me clue you in. 3dMarks are gained more on memory bandwidth and the video card. Not raw CPU speed.

I stand by my statement that side by side with EQUAL memory and video speed, my Intel will smoke your AMD hands down. :nod:

But if you insist, I'll bet you hard cash that my system would out score yours IF I had a 9700 pro. :biggrin:

I'll pick this up again when I get back from Tunica. I have to go there to pick up a Salvador Dali painting and also do some serious gambling. :nod:

See ya in a few days...

accurateimage 01-29-2003 10:51 PM

Choose yor benchmark software, I will use the 2100+ just to prove a point that you cannot "smoke me at all" I am betting I can be pretty close to ya with this $100 chip hehe :) Also this chip is ranked at a " I know you would break 18,000 if you had my 9700 pro in your pc but the difference would not even be over 1000 between the two pc's even with me running this hotrod $100 chip on air :) Also sandra just listed my chip as a 3000+ so your around 270mhz faster right now :) Also wanna compare price vs performance between the two..?? Would be fun to throw that in :)


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