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Mac_forever 01-21-2003 11:59 PM

RIAA can spy on you
 
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...012103X,00.asp

A court has given the RIAA the ability to make ISPs give them the names of any person that downloads a lot of mp3s.
In the article it says 600 songs in one day.
Now I know that not too many people do that, but this is not just the 600 songs in one day. It is against our freedom of privacy.

vee_ess 01-22-2003 01:34 PM

If they get a warrant it is not violating any rights, but otherwise, the ISP needs your permission first unless otherwise noted in the User Agreement.

xMerCLorDx 01-22-2003 02:29 PM

The RIAA needs to go away :(

eviltechie 01-22-2003 08:05 PM

and they need to be hacked more often!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

MIK3 01-23-2003 12:25 AM

RIAA=Retarded Idiots of the A$$ Association

I feel violated as well. And I'm sure in the near future they will drastically reduce that number of d/led mp3's to about 30 a day...

Mac_forever 01-23-2003 12:47 AM

They are trying to make us stop downloading songs from the net. They stopped Napster and are now trying with Kazza and the other p2p programs.
They want all the money from sales to go to them and only them. Do you think that the artists get a lot of the money from the album sales? I don't think so.

Jason425 01-23-2003 12:59 AM

just sit and laugh at the money grubbers.. :rofl: :rofl:

vee_ess 01-23-2003 02:04 PM

he he They are void of any legal options...

Mac_forever 01-24-2003 12:20 AM

That is what you can do with the Record industry. Just laugh at them trying to stop us from downloading files on the net. They can always sue a company for allowing us to download files. But you know there will always be another one that comes along. NApster is gone, but now we have limewire, Kazza, winMX and many others. So RIAA can try and try all they want, we will always find a way to get files from the net that they don't want us to.

Uranium-235 01-24-2003 12:23 PM

they can't stop FTP...or IRC.

MIK3 01-24-2003 01:34 PM

Looks like we will be reffereing to Omega's FTP more often. Hooray for Omega, heh. Then again, we cant forget about IRC! Man, where would we be w/ out that....

duckieqt 01-24-2003 02:17 PM

Thats where I get all mine anyways. Irc = Rules

Uranium-235 01-24-2003 05:53 PM

I forgot another major one...HTTP

David's server dosen't FTP for the majority if his stuff, he now uses http

Omega 01-25-2003 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIK3
Hooray for Omega

Heh, thanks. :) Anyway, I was actually discussing a topic similar to this earlier today, by chance. Speculation held, that as many systems as they shut down, or if they start blocking ports, or monitoring ports, or whatever, that it will be easy enough to get around the system by using port 80.

On the topic of my server, yeah, it's a good thing for the rest of you. Additionally, I'm getting a steady rate of new members as well (about 4-5 per week lately). I attribute that to my new error 404 page (http://192.168.0.21/404.html), and the fact that my (old) site content was spidered by Google. Now people trying to get stuff that's linked on Google's site know what's going on, and can still get stuff. I'm still kind of working on getting FTP back up, so users can give back to the community as well.


Back to the article, however. The judge said that "he saw no connection between music downloading and free speech," and I'd have to say I agree with him, for the most part. It's kind of scary to know that the internet is coming to a point where everything you do might be logged. My first thought is to start encrypting p2p data. I think they'd have to go though a lot of legal work to start breaking people's encryption to monitor their activity. Even like, 2 bit encryption would probably be fine. It'd be incredibly easy to crack, but it wouldn't slow down data tremendously. The point would be that it was in fact encrypted, and thus would be illegal to break into (that's my understanding, at least).

Obviously Kazaa, and Verizon, and whoever else doesn't think this is fair, but they can't blatantly disobey statute. Breaking into encryption, I would think, would require the RIAA to prove probable cause. I don't think the fact that __ GB of data was transferred to the user would be enough probable cause to get a warant or subpoena or whatever they need to break encryption.

On a slightly different note, someone was talking to me about how basically any big company can get around the judicial system to some extent. They can apparently get warants, and supoenas, and whatnot, without going through actual due process. I'm *somewhat* skeptical, but who am I to say what does and doesn't happen in the upper judicial branch?

Mac_forever 01-25-2003 12:48 AM

I just heard that Verizon is appealing the verdict. You know that the RIAA will not let it go. The RIAA would have to sue each one of us who use the net and still it wouldn't stop us.
Even if they encoded the cds with something that stopped us from ripping our cds, we would find ways for going around or through the encription. Or we could just play it on a cd player and record it through the computer.

eviltechie 01-25-2003 01:48 AM

my philosophy is...

if there is a lock
there has to be a key to open it

or atleast a lockpick

Mac_forever 01-26-2003 01:19 AM

Very good theory, eviltechie. And also true. Just look at all the work arounds for many programs and encription techniques.

Grinnin Reaper 01-26-2003 01:21 AM

if man put it together, man can take it apart.

eviltechie 01-26-2003 02:59 AM

or atleast my sledge hammer can take it apart!
lol
j/k

anyways
perhaps this SQL server virus will effect the whole leaching network?
so does this hint that RIAA is behind this??
lol
im just linking whatever info i have even if it makes little sense

Mac_forever 01-27-2003 12:21 AM

That is very interesting. You never know what these companies would do to stop us from downloading the music from the net. They might just put a virus.

Webby Wizard 03-19-2003 01:31 PM

RIAA
 
Give them a box of tissues and let them :cry: about it. Napster only had about 30 servers until RIAA started pursueing it. Then I watched it jump to more than 1000 servers within a month or so. They screwed there selves. Now the P2P has only gotten better.

Downloading music is no different than recording it off the TV or radio. What people can do to protest this issue is "DON'T BUY ANY CD's". My opinion "there's not very many new songs out there that is worth buying or downloading any way". :rofl:

I don't think there is enough courts or jails to put all of us in that downloads music. I wonder if RIAA people download the same music??

:wavey:

Marine 03-19-2003 03:09 PM

unno i knew it was only a mater of time before these guys were gonna start talking crap about p2p.doesn't matter what they do we will always find a way.

Mac_forever 03-20-2003 12:42 AM

Have you guys heard that the RIAA sent letters to 300 companies asking them to stop allowing their employees to use p2p programs? The industry group that includes Microsoft and others say no way. If those companies continue, they will be sued by the RIAA.


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