How do you feel..?? This sums it up for me.
 

Actual letter copied from marine in Bosnia.

> Dear Dad,
>
> A funny thing happened to me yesterday at Camp
> Bondsteel (Bosnia): A French army officer walked up
> to me in the PX, and told me he thought we
> (Americans) were a bunch of cowboys and were going
> to provoke a war in Iraq. He said if such a thing
> happens, we wouldn't be able to count on the support
> of France.
>
> I told him that it didn't surprise me. Since we had
> come to France's rescue in World War I, World War
> II, Vietnam, and the Cold War, their ingratitude and
> jealousy was due to surface [again] at some point in
> the near future anyway.
>
> I also told him that is why France is a third-rate
> military power with a socialist economy and a bunch
> of pansies for soldiers. I additionally told him
> that America, being a nation of deeds and action,
> not words, would do whatever it had to do, and
> France's support, if it ever came, was only for show
> anyway.
>
> Just like in ALL NATO exercises, the US would
> shoulder 85% of the burden, and provide 85% of the
> support, as evidenced by the fact that this French
> officer was shopping in the American PX, and not the
> other way around.
>
> He began to get belligerent at that point, and I
> told him if he would like to, I would meet him
> outside in front of the Burger King and whip his ass
> in front of the entire Multi-National Brigade East,
> thus demonstrating that even the smallest American
> had more fight in him than the average Frenchman.
>
> He called me a barbarian cowboy and walked away in a
> huff.
>
> With friends like these, who needs enemies?
>
> Dad, tell Mom I love her,
>
> Your loving daughter,
>
> Mary Beth Johnson

Kick ass, gotta love it man.

Considering half the facts that she used in that message is wrong, well, I can't say the french guy is wrong.

no comments on this whole war thing until i see hard evidences
until then, peace has to be preserved

Which facts are wrong :) I would love to hear this :D

note , deathjag is a canuck.. i think he's refering to the wars.. i guess they teach things differently there :rolleyes:

we learn not to provock a fight before hard evidences have been seen
otherwise things can get really wrong if motives are mistaken

Agreed :) but hey it's all cool I want to keep any flames down in this room. Better to know what other people besides the us are thinking. I know most of the world hates the usa and I understand some of the reasons but they always whine and moan until we save there butts. Has been proven time and time again so I under stand why schools in different places teach them that. Then when we have to go in an enforce everything most of the world is waiving American flags *LOL* We are kinda like parents, the kids always hate us then thank us later *LOL*

Canadian, you guys do not fight, you just sit up there and smile and be happy which I envy that in allot of ways. Oh nevermind *LOL* will satrt another big huge flame that will get locked haha :) But do agree until there is proof there is no reason to fight. And so far the leaders of the us have kept us out of the loop with hard facts so even I have been a bit skeptical, but this week I beleive they are supposed to release the hard facts. And when they do any country that does not back us even if it is just a nod to kick that shit brains ass then they can have the middle finger and whenever they DO need help from us I wish we would not, but as usual stab us in the back and we help anyways. I mean hell we are the only country in the world that would bomb and then drop right after it a crate of food and medical supplies, who said we do not care..?? hehe :D

we do not fight?

we sent thousands of troops and many of the world's most advanced destroyers to Aghganistan to aid the US war against terrorism

US dropped bombs on our soldiers and now you say we dont fight?
lol

You guys have destroyers..?? *LOL* sorry I did not know :) Just know everyone makes fun of canada's military because there really is not one "supposidly". So I apologise of I offended ya :D Makes it interesting, think I am going to spend the day researching Canada's military. I really did not know you had anything but liek a coast guard ect...

u kidding me?
discovery channel did a show on our navy few months ago

we have the world's most advanced ships
weapons systems completely controled by big computers onboard

faster than human reactions
"world's most advanced" said by Discovery channel
and we have elite forces that not many ppl are not aware of

lack of knowing one thing does not mean that thing does not exist

Agreed that is why I am looking it all up so I know facts about canada's military :)

Canada has a very good and elite military. It's all south of the border. :P

j/k Canada is part of North America so they are as much American as the rest of us. They may not have a massive military like the US, but they have always fought side by side with us without question and with pride and honor.

:D :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

north america doesnt = american, mexico = american? ehhh .. canucks and yanks are alike but the people "south of the other border" work at taco bell and thats it :rofl: jk 8)

I'll have a two tacos and a large coke to go please.

:biggrin:

Actually Canadians on here are pulling a leg or two. Canada has no advance naval Force or any type world class military force. Look it up ! fact is Canada was asking for donations from its Citizens a yr or so ago just to keep its military active.
Canada is fast going 'left' with its PM more left than Krushev and Stalin ever dared to be. The PM is considered a dimwit world wide. The down side of all this is it is costing Canada Billions of U.S. Dollars in Tourism each yr as more and more U.S.Citizens opt to go other places rather than Canada for vacations etc.
With the United States swinging fast to a more conservative status, and Canada hell bent on being Socialist, these two countries are having less and les in common.
Canada also collects upward to 49 percent taxes from its citizens whom are all eager to pay in silence. A canadian once told me that Canadians were too polite to complain.
No Doubt they are too polite to fight also as Canada has now joined Germany and France in opposing the U.S in its terrorist wars. Both Germany and France have huge trade agreements with Iraq, guess Canada must have too.
Canada is a small nation in clout, but does live in the shadow of its southern neighbor, the worlds only super power so with all that in mind they do feel secure sharing our continent with us.

I am just happy knowing for a fact we really do not need any backup at all :) they are just there to say "hey look at us we are here!"

who the f*ck is that guest?

go search for CANEWS II for yourself

ignorant kid
learn the facts before dirty talking

we did not oppose the war on terrorism
we oppose the war on iraq

two different matters
as for the tax, you do not live here so you dont see the people calling finance ministers
we have a group called "Raging Grannies" where its a bunch of old grandmas opposing the government on certain policies and changes

they are effective alot of times

where do your sources come from?
1 or 2 tv programs?
news?
couple of canadian friends?

you need to live here to understand

Medication
 

8) Hey, you folks forget your medication or what.
Canada has been part of most wars fought and will be when given good reason.
Let's not forget that much of the technology that the US uses was and is developed by Canada. Even now, the most recent advances in technology for urban warfare (which the US has been practicing with for this invasion) is from Canada.
Oh and the reason most Canadians don't scream too loudly about the taxes here, are the social, educational and health programs.
And before anyone jumps around thinking "Hey cuz you're a Canuck", it's 'cause I chose to live here and I do have stakes in the war; My brother is in the Gulf right now- Marine.
He and I don't agree about the invasion, but i would be more than happy to see Saddam removed. But i don't think the powerless Iraqi people should be made to suffer any more because of the Madman in power. :shake:

I do not call ya Canuck's I call ya Hosers :)

"But i don't think the powerless Iraqi people should be made to suffer any more because of the Madman in power. "
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Dude, as long as he is in power, the Iraqi people will suffer, 2 million already murdered by this madman. He kills anyone that opposes him, family members and all. Had his own bro and his wife beheaded just a few yrs ago.

Now how would you remove him ? Except to overpower him and lock him up or better yet, kill him ! Then the Iraqi, Saudis, Iranians, as well as the whole world, ( including Canada ) and all other Arab countries could breath a lot easier.

Actually your statement ( as quoted ) contradicts it's self.

there are two main sides of iraq

sadam's power controls the south eastern part of iraq where the fuel is and borders kuwait

there is the group who are against sadam but they live out of that area, mainly up north and west in the mountain ranges or deserts

just to clear things up

Iraq has a history of invading Mid East countries. Iran and Kuwait were two of his targets. It's pretty plain what his intentions are. To gain control of the Mid East and it's oil. He's used chemical and biological warfare in the past and is trying to build a nuclear program. Common sense will tell you that if he had nuclear weapons he would either threaten to use them or use them out right.

For those of you out there that oppose the war on Iraq, ask yourself this... Would you want Saddam controlling the Mid East, it's oil, AND having nuclear weapons? If your answer is yes then your pretty dumb to say the least.

Oh yea, lets not forget the terms of the cease fire agreement Iraq signed after the Gulf War. The US left Saddam in power because of this agreement. He broke it so now it's time to pay the price.

If you ask me, we should drop a few nukes over there, move in and make everyone in the Mid East our bitches. Stop the radical Islamic clerics from brainwashing the young spreading hate against anyone that's NOT Islamic.

We've fought everyone's wars in the past, won them, and then given everything back to them just to have them laugh in our faces later on. We've liberated and supported whole continents only to have them rise up and hate us. For what? Because we have more things they they do? Because we don't believe in God the same way they do?

Is there ONE country in the entire world that has not benifited from the US? We give billions hard earned tax payers money to them, sacrifice our sons and doughters to defend them and they still dispise us. What will be enough to satisfy these people?

:mad:

CiKoTiC,

Very well said and very true. Anyone opposing the deposing of sadam, well, they just don't have a full deck, or they have been brainwashed by bad schools, bad government, bad news casting, etc, etc,.

Sadam has violated every agreement since 1992. Newspersons visiting and reporting on Iraq have told the world many time over that all reports in Iraq is that Sadam was/has been hiding all his weapons in schools, hospitals, masques, neighborhoods etc, knowing full well the USA does not target civilians - like he does- and to make the weapons harder to find. Why does these missile cases keep showing up ? Exactly what the news has been reporting for a yr or so.

The best thing sadam can do right now is disarm, step forward and tell the world where his weapons are hidden. Soon he will not have that option, when the U.S. Armed Forces locate and expose them, well, not the first canadian on here will then step up and say he was duped and he was wrong. They will be as silent then as a church mouse, but now they sure like to oppose the U.S whipping Sadams ass for good, and this time it will happen, soon, in a wk or so.

Well, I think those that oppose a war on Iraq hasn't taken the time to educate themselves on what has happened in the past, what is going on in the present, and what is likely to happen in the future.

I've lived in the Middle East. I've seen first hand how bad it is and the resentment those people have against anyone that don't believe the way they do. It's not just Americans they hate, they hate because they don't know any other way to feel. It's all they've been taught since they were born. For the last 20 years an entire race of absolute fanatics have been bred for one purpose.. to fight against anyone that don't believe they way they do. The Muslim and Islamic faith has become so tainted with hate it's become a cancer to the entire planet and has to be stopped before they start another World War. If it's not stopped now, then these fanatics will have nuclear weapons and the next World War might be the last war ever faught. For anyone....

Remove Saddam
 

Now, now lads, don't misconstrue what I'm saying. :shake:

"Saddam" needs to be removed. "Saddam" is the evil SOB. But I do think we knew this from before the first invasion. So lets not forget that the general populace of Iraq qnd Kuwait got their collective butts kicked in the last conflict whilst "Saddam" sat back and smoked his cigars and barely said 'hmm". >:)

Nuking Iraq probably won't get rid of Saddam. We need to go in, get his ass, and shoot him. That kind of precision and approach would get a lot more respect and support across the board. Walloping the whole Iraqi population will only create another Arab/(put whoever you like here) conflict.
The last thing we need are suicide bombers in the subway in NY and TO. :mad:

Blasting the middle east will only create more martyrs and terrorists because we would be insensitive to fail to recognise that those people need liberating, not an ass kicking.

I'm pretty sure that they'll be real cooperative and "trade" friendly with Saddam out of the way.

:lol: oh i'm still getting over that one.. i have one thing to say about that.. word 8)

Re: Remove Saddam
 

Well put and true.

Most of them need an asskicking for every single thing that happens to them, they scream and burn an american flag and tell eachother it is the damn americans, that is where all the problems come from. Instead the prob is right in front of them and they are to dumb to realize it. *LOL*

Ass kicking
 

"Instead the prob is right in front of them and they are to dumb to realize it"

If u really think that, it's because u have'nt really been paying attention or looked into what those societies go through under a dictator.

:shake: Don't tell me u really think those people go running out of their houses spontaneously to do some "good ol' flag burnin'" now do you?

Most of those people could'nt care less about the US. They're usually too busy trying to scrape out a living while avoiding getting noticed so u don't get killed or locked up and your family persecuted.

When there's an anti(anybody) demonstration on your street (which of course has beeen ordered with the benefit of foreign news cameras) u better get your ass out there and scream and dance and stamp on the flag as loud as you can if you know what's good for you.

Their lives are hard enough without anyone else coming in, bombing their homes, and disrupting their miserable existence only to replace one dictator for another, as they've seen all through their history.

That's the kind of "help" they're accustomed to getting.