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Prometheus 12-16-2003 07:39 PM

I have to confess! For I have sinned
 
I....

I....

I...

Im considering buying a Powermac g5



Nah i dont feel that bad


Im gonna start saving up...ill make 1600+$ by the end of the school year

+xmas and other holidays and other misc holidays then i just have to work this summer and I can get a top of the line (non 20" LCD) g5
+ I dont have nearly the expenses of a college student so :P



Panther has drawn me in

+i get virtual pc and office cheap

So my statement/question is



Are the dual processor worth it? itll make me not have to buy a new comp for a few years

What else is also good to buy /w the g5?

Now then

Let the being mean to me begin

Jason425 12-16-2003 10:12 PM

I'm probably the only one here other than you, but I like macs. (though i haven't used the new ones) I could not let myself spend that much cash on one though. (because of lack of programs and such familiarity with PC's. If nothing else, you'll learn a lot and become part of the cultist group of mac owners!

Prometheus 12-16-2003 11:35 PM

yeah

im still only considering
a car/motorcycle is also in the picture

im gonna be smart and pay for my ducati upfront :P

Jason425 12-17-2003 12:03 AM

and hopefully not wreck it out back 8)

eviltechie 12-17-2003 06:14 AM

AMD Athlon64 is actually faster than G5

i read that in a news article somedays ago

Prometheus 12-17-2003 10:00 AM

REALLY?

hmmm

osX loooks very nice though and from what ive used its very smooth running

Keefe 12-17-2003 12:15 PM

I respect macs too.

They came out with years of crap, now the stuff is staring to get kewl.

I really want one of the titanium backed i-books, a big i-pod, and those sweet Harmon Kardon speakers that look like morphed bells.

OSx really is sweet, I wish they would release an x86 version for all of us PCers.

Prometheus 12-17-2003 12:49 PM

im sure its on their to do list

xMerCLorDx 12-17-2003 02:21 PM

actually about them working on an x86 version, they are currently developing an open source version of the OS called Darwin with _some_ x86 compatability. Many of these developers currently also work between it and OSX. It is highly developmental so i doubt it would be stable enough to depend on as a main os. Haven't tried it but it sure looks fun.

http://developer.apple.com/darwin/index.html

os x has more kickass shit than windows by a long shot. although i await Longhorn to disprove this next year. :p

basing the platform on unix is probably the best thing apple could have ever done. this overcomes so many obstacles, interoperability, wider userbase, putting apple in more realistic competition with other backend server/production companies, joining opensource creates a stronger bridge of standardization, breaking apple-for-graphics-only stereotypes, other stereotypes of macusers changed, programming became more interoperable and less proprietary, and more practical.

macs have always had very nice hardware, even those old ones, they ran solid, more consistant than most pc's. Hell i had an apple II that booted os 7 in 10 seconds.Mostly because of proprietary hardware, but still it worked much slicker. this was when most of their stuff was not crosscompatable..ew..


some really cool stuff if you haven't tried os x (not just osx, os10.3 Panther then go try it now. Its so much different than 10.1 & 10.2. They are both HUGE leaps from eachother, many many changes went between these versions and fixed most bugs, a main one being stronger emulated backwards compatability.) here are some links:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/unix/
http://www.apple.com/macosx/products/

Prometheus 12-17-2003 02:33 PM

i can guarantee i will be installing that and windows simulator ASAP

StinkyMojo 12-17-2003 03:24 PM

I only dislike mac because of one reason- games. I mean, you'll be like "Man, I love this program... It runs better and faster in windows, and dude, this thing is different and nice looking", but then when the time comes when you say "ok, now lets play some games", your only choices are 3 year old PC ports or sessions of Velocity Nova, which get pretty old quick.

Oh yeah, I forgot there is that apple logo puzzle game...if thats a way of "gaming".

xMerCLorDx 12-17-2003 05:56 PM

i'm not telling you to change what you do.. i play games and use windows also..

don't get so defensive damn. i'm just saying apple has really opened up with their new os. just be flexible, try to use something different to compute for once.

Jason425 12-17-2003 06:13 PM

Hmm i thought pro already knew the fx was faster.. apple has never really cared about speed (but that's changing) - that's why the apple freaks get all ready with asthetics and goodies. I doubt apple will make an x86 because apple is in fact a hardware company, that's where their $ comes in. They don't charge all that cash for nothing.

Prometheus 12-17-2003 06:45 PM

have you been to the apple storE?

there is a wall of games (recent ones)

Jason425 12-17-2003 08:16 PM

OH no i haven't, but i've heard they're gorgeous. One of them has a glass staircase (SF i think)

eviltechie 12-17-2003 08:17 PM

P4 EE is faster too
even faster at photoshop than G5

Jason425 12-17-2003 08:22 PM

yes, and it also costs ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! (3.2 EE @newegg.com)
you could buy like 6 of my cpus for that much

Prometheus 12-17-2003 08:35 PM

Bell square

Jason425 12-17-2003 09:57 PM

hmm.. next time i go there i'm gonna make sure i visit the mac store then

StinkyMojo 12-18-2003 09:54 AM

They will corrupt your mind at will!!

Prometheus 12-18-2003 01:38 PM

.............

StinkyMojo 12-18-2003 03:33 PM

oooo, prometheus, you live in seattle!! what high school do/did you go to? Mercer Island High?

vee_ess 12-21-2003 05:53 PM

Mac's whole notion of megahertz don't matter is valid, but only when it comes to competing with Intel. It is true that a G5 2.0GHz system will outperform a P4 2.0GHz system. But then why won't their 2.0GHz systems beat an AMD64 2.0GHz system? The only reason Mac had the "fastest" processor at the time was because MS hadn't readied their 64-bit version for AMD as it was scheduled to have been released. So, even though the Opterons could run Photoshop faster, it didn't count because it wasn't using a home OS, rather a business OS. So the whole G5 hype was unfounded in my opinion. And yeah the P4EE's urn the G5's, but then the FX-51's burn those. AMD rules!

Jason425 12-21-2003 06:42 PM

*spits on amd* pro goes to MIHS I think.. he doesn't live in seattle.. it's just close so people know where he lives (that don't know where MI is)

vee_ess 12-21-2003 06:49 PM

LOL... I forgot at first you are an Intel guy!

Jason425 12-21-2003 06:52 PM

8) Almost a fanboy - but not quite.. The 2500+ is tempting, but wasn't enough to sway me.. The new intel chipsets are just too good.. mostly..

vee_ess 12-21-2003 08:05 PM

What about the FX-51's? Or if price is considered in this, there are the 64-bit 3000+'s that perform amazingly.

Prometheus 12-21-2003 11:46 PM

yeah MIHS stinky

why?

Jason425 12-22-2003 04:23 PM

because he is a stalker and he is after you! Quick, hire lawyers and bodyguards!

Yea vee $ is always an issue for me - I get the best bang for the buck 90% of the time. The 2.4 flying soo high makes it the best value for me.

vee_ess 12-22-2003 11:43 PM

Wow, I feel stupid... The whole point of my previous post was to point out the price of the chips! At newegg.com they have the 64-bit 3000+'s (on socket-754) for $220. Pretty competitive pricing.

Prometheus 12-23-2003 12:45 AM

yeah i know

I wish MAc would make a non Steel non flashy computer whos price can be brought down

Jason425 12-23-2003 03:07 AM

Yea that's pretty attractive for a 64-bit chip. Personally i'll wait until at least 64-bit os's and apps come out.

StinkyMojo 12-23-2003 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus
yeah MIHS stinky

why?

oh nuttin... just wanted to point out your school was LUCKY and we(Mount Si High) should have won. That is all >:)

Prometheus 12-23-2003 02:29 PM

Stinky where the hell do you live?


I hate MIHS we are too revolved around sports and we are TOOO preppy

80% of the school has cellphones

Jason425 12-23-2003 03:17 PM

Sports are cool.. except for your tennis team.. #1 in state 24/7/365... *remembers playing their 2nd doubles team in the kingco tourney and getting owned*

Prometheus 12-23-2003 04:54 PM

STINKY where are you?

Jason425 12-23-2003 05:08 PM

he lives like a 5 min drive away from me in the richest neighborhood in my town.. (i don't live there) i say that because that makes him in the MI catagory.. i guess

Prometheus 12-23-2003 05:23 PM

nah MI is the richest community around

Jason425 12-23-2003 06:05 PM

yea.. $500,000 houses there are $150,000 here :/

Prometheus 12-23-2003 09:32 PM

its not the houses that drive the value up its the limited space


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