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HARDWAREPUB.COM DOMAIN NAME HIJACKED
In November, 2001, I bought the domain name hardwarepub.com from the owner at that time, Trevor Gehman. He transferred ownership of the domain from himself to me, Keefe John. I paid for the transfer of the domain and the addition of two years
into it. At this point, the domain was good through 06/30/03. Shortly thereafter, the domain was transferred to a partner account of Registrars.com -- the partner account of Netwurx, INC., 35 East Sumner Street, Hartford, WI 53027. I transferred it to this account because I was employed by Netwurx and they were able to offer me cheaper pricing than direct registration through Registrars.com. The domain was still, of course, registered with my ownership information. The monies for these transfers were taken directly out of my paycheck by Netwurx. In February of 2002 I was released of employment by Netwurx, INC. I had about 4-5 domains through Netwurx at this time. In early May, I attempted to transfer these names to a different registrar, ItsYourDomain. The transfers were refused by NSI (The domains were now listed in Netwurx's partner account at VeriSign (aka NSI), because Registrars.com was bought out by them). NSI told me that the transfers were being denied because Netwurx did not pay their partner account bill. NSI further informed me that they could not help me, because as Netwurx was a partner, I had to deal with them directly. I contacted Netwurx about this issue and they refused to help me at all. At one point they said they would release the domains to a new, direct account in my name that wouldn't be affected by their non-payment status with NSI, within 2-3 days. I waited a week and heard nothing from them. At this point I emailed them back asking for the status of the domain issue. I received an email a few hours later, direct from Peter F. Maher, Jr., President of Netwurx, INC. It read: "I am sick of dealing with you. If you call here again and I find out, I will register all of your domains and keep them. I have gone through and deleted ALL of your domains. They are now in the open access pool, go get them if you want them...You handle it." I immediately called VeriSign to see if they could help. I was able to get through to a Tier 2 support team member. He explained that the partner abused the power of his account and that he could send in a request for the domain to be pulled back into the system -- into a new account that wasn't touchable by Netwurx. The next day when I called back they said that they could not pull the domain back, but they might be able to just re-register it for me right away. I called back again the next day and they claimed there was nothing that they could do since the "delete command" was already sent to the global registry. They suggested purchasing SnapNames Snapback service. I purchased this service a few days ago and had been checking the domain religiously using whois. I checked whois for hardwarepub.com this morning and it is now registered to a completely new organization called "buydomains.com". When you surf to www.hardwarepub.com, it redirects to buydomains.com where my domain is "FOR SALE". I called VeriSign again today and they gave me the canned response of, "Please e-mail customerservice@networksolutions.com with an explanation of your problem.." I also called Domainzoo, the registrar that hardwarepub.com is now registered with. They said that I should contact VeriSign. So, as you can see, I'm getting the run-around, and am not sure what to do here. Someone PLEASE advise me as to what I should do in this matter. My domain name was taken away from me without my permission. It was hijacked. This was not right. Please, PLEASE help. Call me at 262-893-9518 or respond via e-mail. Thank you, Keefe |
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go down there and pop em' in the nose ;D
naw umm get a lawyer |
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If you have a couple of bucks and are willing to help us out please go here! http://www.hardwarepub.net/about/hijacked/index.shtml
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You can also email Pete Maher and give him a peice of your mind. ;)
Its prolly not a good idea to have his email address on here. But I am sure you can put two and two together if his name is pete and his company is netwurx.net. |
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You should talk to Pete Maher and try getting him to do something before you take legal action and exploit him. Mention the press, too, and try to get a list of his clientell.
And we should all mass attack him with emails. I volunteer to place a virus (to email to him) to help the effort as I will just format my computer. You can sue him for harassment, too, if you are to sue. |
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so basically the retard deleted ur domain w/ out ur consent...man i sure would be pissed...and then threatening u about calling him again...yeah i certainly would get leagal w/ this guy. First i would definetly hire a lawyer!!! Show him what u just typed here, and im sure that between the both of u, you wont loose this! This guy sure sounds like he think he knows everything, i doubt that he does!!! Man i u think about it... this is exacly like if u were paying for your house and someone comes up and takes it right from u or even demolishes it, WHILE UR IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please support us with updates keefe! For these will be keys to recovering your site, and definetly make this a public conflict...the more people u get, the more power u will have!!! dont give up and good luck to you!
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Keefe,
Sorry to be reading your current situation. It just chafes my ass to hear these Registrar troubles. The fact that the domain has already been re-registered and ownership has transfered from you to these other yahoo's, leave you with only one option: Hire a lawyer. Gather any and all documentation you have that you were in fact the registered owner of the domain and were current with payments. Print out any and all email correspondense and take em to court. The fact they are all railroading you back n forth I really think as long as you can prove original ownership and that you were current you could win this easily. Wish I could be of more assistance. Good luck and keep us posted. I have dealt with many dirty registrars in the past but I have to admit this is the worst yet. |
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In addition for all mentioned by Wizbones you may want to gather logs from hardwarepub and then bring them to court. Then you may claim for monetary compensation for every hit based on average statistics, as I remember lot's of commercial adds on your site. You can demand compensation for every second hardwarepub is owned by sbd else, this is a standard procedure.
sorry can't help you much good luck ! Chef |
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I emailed peter-less Pete. Told him what I think. Wish you luck getting it back.
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If you get a reply on that I would like to see it.
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You bet I will, but I doubt a response would be forthcoming. If he does, I will forward to you.
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Hijacked totally illegal, You can contact the FEDS and they can check it out, I've seen some website hijacked or hacked sites.
I remmy surfed to my old webbased email and saw "Happy Halloween Hack", I hit the A/C/D to abort the IE browser and disconnecting a modem. I called the company for reporting website hacked, I told them better call up the FEDS, they shutted down the site for awhile. a few days later they finally caught a hacker. |
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Don't forget, we should get with the media if possible, they make things happen, so why not make them help you?
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and i was saying... ;D Keefe tryin making this a "finely tunned publicity stunt" but this is no stunt by any means...this is war! Go public man...the more ya go the more power to you man! Forget what everyone thinks of going public, i say go for it see that it will come to your advantage! ;D
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you tried contacting ICANN? isn't domain name disputes their territory, just one thing, plz tell me you saved all your emails regarding this!
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Well, wish I knew what to tell you, or atleast some good advice. I went to google and did a search for 'domain name hijacking' , then got several pages of places/groups/orgs etc that help resolve these type disputes, they may want money though for sure. Or you may be able to file enough 'formal complaints' with every agency that will listen, just to tie them up for awhile, that may help.
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I think I may write an email to the @$$#0|3 posing as a potential customer, but ask him about this saying I read this on the 'net (which I did) and asking what he did about it.
We'll see what he says. |
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You should know that the information you have here is woefully inadequate and somewhat inaccurate.
1) The Bill was paid, Netwurx was not willing to pay to renew a domain that was not mine. The person in question could have easily reregistered the domain with another registrar and POOF it would have been gone. If his choice is not to do that then there is nothing I can do. 2) You also do not know that registrars has NO way of moving an account from a partners account to a std account without registering it with another registrars. He was the only one that could make the change, we put all the contact info in his name for him to do so. 3) The reason registrars does this is to stop squatting and domain stealing, which this individual is KNOWN for doing. Netwurx made the threat because he was calling the Netwurx office daily to get them to resolve it and the only way to do it was pay to reregister with another registrars. Since this particular individual IS a known domain abuser (I know this because him and his associates are doing this to a few of my companies already) I am not willing to associate with or assist him in any of his unethical endeavors. 4) You should know that the individual did not give the reason he was terminated and would surely not tell the truth because it is clearly domain abuse itself. I did not register the domain nor did anyone I know. I simply deleted it from my account. 5) After review with registrars they have agreed with Netwurx and have found the individuals complaint to be unfounded. I am sure this string will be deleted because the above individual is responsible for this domain. :P |
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And just how are we to take you serious if you can't even tell us who you are "concerned citizen". Kefee has went overboard with personal information and you can't even give us a name? Sorry but anyone can drop an anonymous tip, I'll disregard that like the trash I think it is.
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Well I think at this point some input from Keefe would be a good thing.
Is there any truth in the statement two posts above? Hey guys don't flame me. I know neither you, Keefe or anyone for that matter here personally. People make mistakes or do things that don't work out the way they plan, things just happen. Do I agree with all that went down? No, do I know all that went down? No. So what really happened and well let's get to the bottom of it? I would really hate to hate someone when there is no method to the madness, and as well I would hate to support someone on unsure terms as well. I think some valid sounding points have been made on both ends. So do I flip a coin or ask questions? PS I think deleting this thread would be an admission of guilt to some extent. Let's play this out and resolve what ever needs resolving. |
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Ditto what Wizbones said.
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Well, wixbones responce makes good sense and I would endorse it. At this point we need to hear a rebuttle from keefe, or some type of explanation. The 'concerned citizen' - guest above presented some good facts and we have no way of knowing if he is sincere or not. Not including his name doesn't bother me, after all he may not wish to recieve any hate mail or whatever.
But in every dispute there are winners and losers, just like court cases, and if keefe hasn't taken the high road here , how are we suppose to know. An explanation from Keefe would certainly be in order and welcomed. |
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In response to the concerned citizen, which is obviously Mr. Maher himself:
1) Their bill was not paid. To this date, you can still call up NSI and ask them about one of hundreds of domains in Netwurx's partner account and they will tell you that the domain is in unpaid status. In fact, NSI has assured me that the unpaid invoice is over 9 pages long, and all of the domains are going to be suspended soon. If Netwurx thinks they pay, I can only laugh when their whole ISP goes down from a domain suspension. I could not have "easily registered the domain with another registrar." If you are at all familiar with NSI, you will know that they do not allow any domains to be transferred that are in unpaid status. In fact, even once they become paid you must wait 60 days to transfer them away. NSI did give me the option of paying the whole invoice, of approx $900 dollars and waiting 60 days. Obviously I was not going to pay for all of Netwurx's domains. I actually tried to transfer the domain 4 times, and every single time it was denied for that same reason. Also, the domain was paid through 06/30/2003, so Mr. Maher cannot make the claim that he did not want to pay for it. Since it would not come up for renew for another TWO YEARS. 2) The only way to remove it from a partner account is to transfer to another registrar. Firstly, the partner account must allow the " release" of the domain. Secondly, the domain could not be transferred because of the aforementioned reasons. 3) As you can see, Mr. Maher is trying to discredit us by making reckless accusations. I have never "squatted" and domains, if you think otherwise please enlighten me so I can know of it. On the contrary to me, Mr. Maher is KNOWN to be a domain squatter. He has "squatted" allaboutkids.com from Disney, INC. In response to calling the business daily. Since I was a paying customer I have the right to call the business whenever I want, especially when the business is doing me wrong. I actually only called a few times a week, and it was only this much since the person who I need to talk to was seemingly never in the office. You can see that man is dishonest, and is just trying to cover his tracks because he messed up. You can clearly see that he does not even know what he is talking about since his registrar is Network Solutions, not registrars. I also highly doubt that this complaint is unfounded, since the FBI, ICANN, and NSI management have taken great interest in helping me out. |
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Due to the overwhellming evidence that keefe has provided for us...i feel that this Mr. Maher is a criminal at that and i leagally declare him a retard....that is down right disgusting to take away a site that belongs to DISNEY INC. You have to be mentally wrong to take away a site for kids being that there arent that many here on the net as there are for adults and teens. Obvioulsly your right keefe, this guy doesnt know what he is talking about...in fact...i dont think this guy knows himself. I also cant see himself backing himself up with the FBI, ICANN, & NSI comming after him! I hope that he realizes what kind of spider web he has been caught in and that the black widow is closely approaching...i think that in the near future the only place that this guy will be "squatting" will be on a steel toilet in a jail cell! Yeah it still looks like the tracks he has been trying to cover up is still very visible and that he isnt doing a good job at all.
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In the words of a fellow member Mighty_Chef...i think that it would be 100% appropriate to close this post off with a nice... " Cheers ;) " P.S.- Chef will return... |
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I see no overwhelming evidence on either parties case here.
It's a he said/he said string at best. At this point all I can offer up on the table is this : Keefe if you are indeed wronged here and lost your domain becuase someone dropped the ball. Pick up the ball and run with it and fight legally as best you can to regain the domain. If you cannot then it's time to move on and let bygons be bygons. Chalk it up as a lesson learned, store it in the ol database and aviod it again in the future. To sit here and belittle the wrong doer in question here is a bit rediculous in my opinion. It's been done right? Can you do anything about it? Sounds to me like NO is the answer. Ok, next step. Register a new domain that works for you and keep on trucking. All the other posts of angry, and rediculous bable about what you are going to do yada yada I can't bare to repeat most of it. Hey it's time to grow up and act somewhat responsibly. Things happen and we either learn from our mistakes or we continue to repeat them throughout our lives. Doing the same thing over and over expecting diferrent results I believe that is called insanity. Is bashing the company in question going to fix it? Is continually harassing and spewing vulgarities going to fix it? Didn't think so. Good luck Keefe with what ever path you decide to travel down. Ball is in your court and you've got a decission to make. Move on or go insane :-* |
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Wow, Mr Maher has graced us with his presence! Hello Pete from the other guy that owned domains that you chose to delete!
I can personally vouch for atleast 90% of what Keefe has said. I can't vouch for the full 100%, only because Keefe has talked to about 3 times as many department heads and managers at NetSol/Verisign than I did. :) As employees of Netwurx, we paid for our domains with deductions on our paychecks or with hours worked under the table. It was a decent deal then, $14/year of registration. Now it's easy enough to get even cheaper on your own. Pete, you got behind in your bill with Registrars.com and after they rolled those accounts over into NetSol, they called you on those bad debts. So you opted to delete Keefe's and my domains to whittle down your $900 debt. So everyone knows, our domains were paid for a good time. I had a few domains that were to expire Sept11, 2002, but that was a good 3 months in the future. Most of the rest of my domains were good well into 2003. Keefe's domains were in the same boat. Pete, short and sweet you f*cked Keefe and f*cked yourself and your company. This story has gotten the attention of the national media, the FBI (not sure what jurisdiction they have over the matter, but I will be calling them too), NSI, and ICANN. Let me ask you a few closing questions: 1) How long do you think it will take for the local media to catch wind of this and publish it? When someone's garbage cans get stole, that makes front page news - where do you think this will get posted in the Hartford Times? Where do you think the Milw J/S will put it? 2) What do you think customers will think when they find out that their ISP that hosts their professional business websites - they are in so heavy of debt that they have to jettison paid for domains to remain solvent? 3) How long do you think it will take before Keefe has respectable lawyers contacting him to represent him and his company to achieve compensation for his easily proven losses? How much will it cost to have your expensive Chicago lawyer advise you on these affairs? 4) How many people will you have to terminate just to stay in business? Well, last one is overkill, but you get my point. It's just to show you that your actions ripple back to you each time you do something hurtful like this. As a good example, look at me. Months after you lay me off, I hear that you were talking about how you thought I was hacking your customer database to get info on customers so I could advertise my computer repair services. You then retailiate by giving me bad references, which leaves me jobless and idle and mad. Months later you find out that it was another employee that was stealing your info and hacking your network. So, because you went overkill, I went months without work and just ruined our friendship. Of course, you know what happened then. For the better good of your company, you really should run al your rash decisions past Pamela. She atleast had business sense and knew to plan her actions around future repercussions. It's proven by her awesome win ratio in FreeCell. :) Pete, I just heard about the Inforamp domains. Ouch, seems you let a few other domains get deleted too? Well, maybe we can all sue together. CLASS ACTION TIME! :D Take care- -Eric- |
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Well, Mr Maher's full BS!!!! I am supporting Keefe's action against the Hijacker/Hacker
Maher should go to polygraph for the lie detector by the FBI agents, if he gets guilty, heh! Maher's loser and landing into the jail box! [quote author=WildEric link=board=general&num=1024013865&start=15#25 date=06/19/02 at 13:46:52] Wow, Mr Maher has graced us with his presence! Hello Pete from the other guy that owned domains that you chose to delete! I can personally vouch for atleast 90% of what Keefe has said. I can't vouch for the full 100%, only because Keefe has talked to about 3 times as many department heads and managers at NetSol/Verisign than I did. :) As employees of Netwurx, we paid for our domains with deductions on our paychecks or with hours worked under the table. It was a decent deal then, $14/year of registration. Now it's easy enough to get even cheaper on your own. Pete, you got behind in your bill with Registrars.com and after they rolled those accounts over into NetSol, they called you on those bad debts. So you opted to delete Keefe's and my domains to whittle down your $900 debt. So everyone knows, our domains were paid for a good time. I had a few domains that were to expire Sept11, 2002, but that was a good 3 months in the future. Most of the rest of my domains were good well into 2003. Keefe's domains were in the same boat. Pete, short and sweet you f*cked Keefe and f*cked yourself and your company. This story has gotten the attention of the national media, the FBI (not sure what jurisdiction they have over the matter, but I will be calling them too), NSI, and ICANN. Let me ask you a few closing questions: 1) How long do you think it will take for the local media to catch wind of this and publish it? When someone's garbage cans get stole, that makes front page news - where do you think this will get posted in the Hartford Times? Where do you think the Milw J/S will put it? 2) What do you think customers will think when they find out that their ISP that hosts their professional business websites - they are in so heavy of debt that they have to jettison paid for domains to remain solvent? 3) How long do you think it will take before Keefe has respectable lawyers contacting him to represent him and his company to achieve compensation for his easily proven losses? How much will it cost to have your expensive Chicago lawyer advise you on these affairs? 4) How many people will you have to terminate just to stay in business? Well, last one is overkill, but you get my point. It's just to show you that your actions ripple back to you each time you do something hurtful like this. As a good example, look at me. Months after you lay me off, I hear that you were talking about how you thought I was hacking your customer database to get info on customers so I could advertise my computer repair services. You then retailiate by giving me bad references, which leaves me jobless and idle and mad. Months later you find out that it was another employee that was stealing your info and hacking your network. So, because you went overkill, I went months without work and just ruined our friendship. Of course, you know what happened then. For the better good of your company, you really should run al your rash decisions past Pamela. She atleast had business sense and knew to plan her actions around future repercussions. It's proven by her awesome win ratio in FreeCell. :) Pete, I just heard about the Inforamp domains. Ouch, seems you let a few other domains get deleted too? Well, maybe we can all sue together. CLASS ACTION TIME! :D Take care- -Eric- [/quote] |
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well it looks like this Mr. Maher obviously doesnt know what to say and is dumbfounded by this whole situation or has packed up for ever and moved to Europe! I hope the stupid PUNK does leave for ever...but id rather prefer him being a true representative of his crappy, low-life self and respond to this thread so that all of us can hear what he has to say. This way we can see if he can back up all his lies on his part w/ all of the conclusive evidence that everyone has posted on this thread! Im glad that keefe has finally taken this public which i recommended on my first post i believe. I dont believe this is still the same he said/she said ordeal anymore...this has gotten down to the bare facts and it seems that this Mr. Maher is about to get pounded into the ground with a nice sludge hammer! I dont see why anyone would make all of this information up mearly as a publicity stunt, because keefe wouldnt post this unless it really concerened the illegal actions that were litterally "taken" with Mr. Maher. Personally, i think this low-life could get the best lawyer in the world and still get creamed in this dispute due to the relentless lies that he has faced w/ himself as well as criminal actions taken. This guys going down keefe....all the way down...
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I know Keefe personally, and have had many conversations with him. He has aided me in several job's fixing puters and such. I can tell you that we had many conversations regarding what he and others wanted to do as far a business ventures go. Squatting? I don't think so. He had plans for each and everyone of those ventures.
I don't know this Pete personally, however had met him briefly once. I was NOT impressed. I personally advised Keefe to go to the local district attorny when he received a very threatening letter from this Pete, and to top it all off, Keefe was not yet 18. Can you say " Threatening a minor"? Keefe is just to dam easy going. If it were me, I would have the perpetrator of this whole thing hanging on a very sharp stick, sometimes known as "how many charges can you bring against a person" Ya just got to use the tools that our society has furnished us with. The news media, the district attorny, and the courts. In the end the rightious will prevail. Yes it still Pi--es me off to the max when I see someone screw over people that put their trust in them. This man should be run out of town on a Rail, better yet, where are the tar and feathers. |
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Thanks for the post joel.
Frankly, I am tired of hearing about this. Its time to lock this post any move on in the right direction. We have all learned something out of this, now it is time to go forward and dispense this knowledge. Long Live Techware Labs! |
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