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Rastafrik 08-24-2004 05:22 AM

Flashing bios from MSI GF4 Ti4200 to MSI GF4 TI4600
 
Hello. First my english is not so good. However i need bios for MSI GF4 Ti4600 with 64Mb memory and 4X AGP. Can anyone help me. :blush:

Prometheus 08-24-2004 06:25 AM

First of all you have posted in the wrong Forum

Second That isnt a motherboard it is a Graphics Card and to the Best of my Knowledge Graphics Card Bios cannot be updated.

Do you mean a Driver?

Rastafrik 08-24-2004 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus
isnt a motherboard it is a Graphics Card and to the Best of my Knowledge Graphics Card Bios cannot be updated.

I didn't know that this isn' right form, and a know that this is graphic card, yes it can be updated and it work dame good. So i need bios for MSI GE4 Ti4600. Can you ask someone else if someone know where can i find it. I will be veary happy. :rolleyes:

CiKoTiC 08-24-2004 09:36 AM

Quote:

Best of my Knowledge Graphics Card Bios cannot be updated.
Sure they can. Nvflash is the utility used to flash nvidia based video cards.

Jason425 08-24-2004 09:57 AM

yes, and i've ruined a card before by doing it.. but i've also successfully done it.. make sure your card can do it before you try, or you're in trouble...

Napster 08-24-2004 08:49 PM

Yea that Nview utility can emulate all the way up to a NV40 bios, but as Jason said it is very risky.

Quote:

prometheus
Posted: Tue Aug 24th, 2004 5:25 am Post subject:
First of all you have posted in the wrong Forum
Go easy on him Wes, lets help him first... then tell him what forum to post in.

xckid082488 08-24-2004 10:36 PM

yes

eviltechie 08-24-2004 11:43 PM

its a wonder what google can do for you in 2 seconds!

http://whitebunny.demon.nl/hardware/chipset_nvidia.html

CiKoTiC 08-24-2004 11:46 PM

yup :google:

Jason425 08-25-2004 01:43 AM

:google: :thumbsup:

Rastafrik 08-25-2004 03:32 AM

Thanks for help. I hope that this will do the trick. Hawe anyone hawe any good advise befor i flash card. Can anyone thel me how can i do this. I have nvflash, winfast flash too, but i dont know how to do this. How can i force new bios to my card?

eviltechie 08-25-2004 04:05 AM

i would suggest you read a lot before flashing

flashing also depends on each utility you use
ive never flashed a video card bios before because i know it is very risky
especially having Ti4200 to run at Ti4600 speed right away

i would overclock your Ti4200 first to see its potentials
if it can reach the speeds of Ti4600 no problems after some gaming then you can flash if you still like
frankly i dont see the advantage of flashing video card bios except that you dont have to overclock it through apps in windows

Rastafrik 08-25-2004 06:32 AM

I test video card 330/650 and work all day withowt any problems. Ti4600 works at 300/600 so that is not a problem. The only problem is that i can't get bios for ti4600 anywhere. i got it but it was corupted file. :shake:

Jason425 08-25-2004 12:16 PM

sometimes when you flash the bios it changes other things than the clock speed.. (see old 9500 mods to 9700).. but that can now be done in drivers...


what happened to my 9500 might happen to you.. you'll be goin along.. get ready to flash.. it erases your old bios, then tries to write the new one.. but wait, it's WRITE PROTECTED! and your life is over.. i guess you can bring it back with a pci video card but I don't know exactly how you go about that.

eviltechie 08-25-2004 06:21 PM

its probably not corrupted
just probably because your TI4200 is 64mb and TI4600 is 128mb

Jason425 08-25-2004 06:46 PM

dude.. files can be corrupted.. it happens.. and sometimes they're hosted that way.. he didn't even get to flashing it sounds like.. if he did, he'd be in trouble...

CiKoTiC 08-25-2004 08:18 PM

If your going to flash the BIOS on your video card, the best way to protect it is to backup the original BIOS. Then create batch files on a bootable floppy that will flash the new BIOS and restore the original if something goes wrong. If you fubar the flash, the computer will still boot to the floppy. You wont see anything, but if you enter the restore batch file name, you can flash it back to the original BIOS.

I've done it many times with various video cards.

gnogtr 08-25-2004 10:38 PM

This just doesn't seem like much of a performance jump here. It's time to reach for the sky and get a modern graphics card.

Jason425 08-25-2004 11:12 PM

ouch yo.. help a playa out... when he lags to death he'll figure it out..

eviltechie 08-26-2004 04:54 AM

cik, how do you do that?
could you help me?
i think its time for me to update my Ti4200 128mb AGP4x's bios now

CiKoTiC 08-26-2004 05:29 PM

Create a bootable floppy disk. Type Format a:\ /s at a command prompt or use Windows by right clicking on the drive and selecting "copy system files".

Gather up all the files you will need to flash the video card (nvflash.exe, dos4gw.exe, and the updated bios you will be upgrading to) and copy them to the floppy disk. Put them in root.

Open Notepad and create a text file. Put the following text in it. (you can name the .bin file anything you want. Just remember what you named it because you will need it for another batch file.

nvflash -b a:\backupbios.bin

Save the txt file as backup.bat.
(NOTE: You will have to change the save as to "all files". If you don't, it will name it flash.bat.txt)

Create another txt file and name it restore.bat. Put the following txt in it.

nvflash -f a:\backupbios.bin

(NOTE: VERY IMPORTANT!! Use the exact same file name you used when you backed up the original bios.

Lastly, create a third batch file called flash.bat. Put the following text in it.

nvflash -f a:\biosnamehere.bin

(NOTE:The biosnamehere.bin will be the actual name of updated bios that you will be flashing)

You should have three batch files named:
backup.bat
restore.bat
flash.bat

Copy the batch files to the floppy disk.

Now your ready to test. It's VERY IMPORTANT that you test the backup and restore batch files before you try to flash any updated bios'.

Boot to the floppy.
at the a> prompt. Type "backup.bat" (without the quotes)
It should backup your current bios and save it to the floppy disk.
When it's done, reboot the computer using the floppy disk.
At the a> prompt. Type "restore.bat: (without the quotes)
You will not hurt the video card because you are just restoring the bios that's already on it. Your only testing that the batch files work.

When your satisfied the files are working, proceed to use the flash.bat file to update the bios.

If the flash completes, keep the floppy disk in the drive and boot to it. If you don't see any video, then most likely the flash failed or the card didn't like the new bios. If the computer don't hang when booting, then let the computer to continue to boot. Give it a few minutes to complete. Monitor the Floppy drive activity light. When it goes out and stays out for about a minute type restore.bat and hit enter. You wont be able to see what you are typing, but it should still restore the original bios. When the drive light goes out, wait a minute or two and reset the computer.

If the computer hangs, put a PCI graphics card in the computer and set the motherboard bios to boot to PCI graphics first. Insert you floppy disk and use the restore.bat file to fix your nvidia card.

Jason425 08-26-2004 05:39 PM

:thumbsup:

Rastafrik 08-29-2004 07:18 AM

So i have to get bios for gf 4600 with 64 ram? I thing that it is posible. I heared that i can get somewhere the flash sofwear that copy my old bios on disk and then you can change clock and name in biost, then you can flash with this bios. Is this true?

Rastafrik 08-29-2004 07:32 AM

I have one stupid question. Realy stupid but help me anywhey. How can i add my picture like anyone else.

Jason425 08-29-2004 10:39 AM

picture to what..left? that's called an avatar.... camper..


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