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I swear....Hl2 Doom3 Stalker etc......Release dates all over the place.....not one of them true probably :P

Its getting to the point where people are going to start betting money on what day or even YEAR at this point at which they will come out......somewhat sad .........are there any sharper release dates to date....maybe we could start a TWL pool (maybe not money but bragging rights or something)

Didn't some code get stolen from hl2 or was that some excuse i heard for the delay? I think hl2 and stalker are released 24/09/2004 apparantly, in the uk anyway according to play.com. But i want to know whens Rome total war out? At least they dont give out release dates they just say when its ready, but the agony of waiting, but i'd prefer it to rushing a release and getting a bad game + hl2 is being made with softimage which is brilliant but i've found it tends to have a mind of its own sometimes (like remove textures or mess around with clusters so you only have one side of your character with a material on).

If there is no online play I will probably...use a friends copy...they made us wait too long!