Thanks for the info but i already have half live and all the mods other than blue shift. It is a hella game but its getting old playing it. My fav game at the moment is Jedi Knight II, but i am a starwars freak so i could be bias. I like the unreal idea I love the old one and would like to get info on the new beta.( not sure my box has the balls to handle it) can you give me a link or somthin ? If anyone else has another game they like please throw it out there.