you all have really good view points but i have one game in mind that prety much sets the bar for graphics and game play. It's morrowind. it has outstanding graphics and the most indepth gameplay i have ever seen. ive played it countless times and never...and i do mean never have i had the same gaming experience. although i also have a ps2 and can see how some say it has good graphics i just cant see how you can put it ahead of the xbox. there is just no way. well im done it was just a thought.