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Originally Posted by Jason425
ok let's make this simple.. you have a big thing of grapes, a truckload, no a highway of trucks full of grapes. Say there are 1,000,000,000,000,001 grapes. Take one grape away and you have 1,000,000,000,000,000 grapes. Now tell me how there is the same number of grapes before and after? Think of it this way and you can see how rediculous it is to just move to another number for kicks.. 
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Well, if you want to make that analogy, you have to make it completely. You aren't taking off an entire grape. Go down to a singular cell, then go down to a single molecule of it. Now go down to a single atom of that molecule. Within that molecule you have subatomic particles, choose one, if it's not an electron you go down another level to strings that make up subatomic particles, if you do go to the electron its a string already. Now take an infinitely small amount of the energy that makes up a string out. The string is still a string, because not all strings have exactly the same amount of energy, its the string equivalent of a wavelength that determines its properties anyways, so your real life example was just shut out by String Theory. :P
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Originally Posted by James
Some people here have definitely not taken calculus, and certainly haven't taken calc w/ theory behind it. If you haven't, i'd seriously consider STOP misleading people b/c of "simple" logic, that unfortunately doesn't hold shit on Newton.
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James, I quite agree with you. The reference you made to me earlier in that post was referring to me before I took Calculus. While I agree that one cannot understand the concepts necessary to understand any truths of this without understanding the concepts one learns in Calculus, I don't think they shouldn't be a part of the discussion. They just won't be right, that's all

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Jason425, if you have seen
L'Hopital's Rule, (
lim f(x)/g(x) = lim f'(x)/g'(x),)you will agree with me when I tell you that 1 (or any constant) divided by infiniti is equal to 0.
1 - .9~ = 1/(infiniti)
Deny that!
