I like basic.  The orignal basic.  Like 10 goto 20 command line type stuff myself.  ;D,  Sorry getting reminisant.  Just curios if anyone knows where I could get somemore information on VB and some software to start learning more about it.  Also for someone starting back into this (I knew Basic well but alas it is a lost art form I'm afraid), is there a better starting point to get back into programming.  All this perl and Java stuff seems like quite a jump to me.  By the way Long live DOS 5.0.