[quote author=JohnDoez link=board=securehack&num=995392527&start=0#4 date=11/08/01 at 04:29:58]
>Hacking is in any form what so ever Illegal, but it is widely >used from Police agencies also, I may add,  to control the >vast amount of internet sites with Illegal contents etc.

How wrong you are, the term hacking implies taking things apart to see how they work, this is illegal? You are talking about the commonly misrepresented cracker.

>Netangels, has over the last few years recruited Hackers,
>To take a look at the inside contents of sites [ due to one >major fact that the police do not have permission to ]
>mostly porn / terrorists
>Then collect the logged E mail addresses etc and pass these >onto the CIA.

This is a recent development and not where the definition of the term originally comes from.

>Now Netangels is a setup where people being stalked etc go >to for help, they recruited the Hackerz that defaced certain
>O B L [ insert your own swear words about this freak ]
>sites after September 11th, these registered members "kind >
>off" have the backing from the CIA.?
You've really only gottten into this recently haven't you, or are you just malking this up as you go along? Security expert since 9/11

>A nice piece of information over one grc.com about a 13 >year old ( windows user ) using a denial of service attack to >remove two T1 servers,but being under age and not causing >$5000 the FBI ...
>well read it

This kid used tools available on the web, he was a script kiddie not a hacker or even a cracker, get your terms right.

>Cracking, has nothing to do with Hacking, mostly carried out >by windows users down loading Programs to stress test >Webmasters OWN server, mostly brute force programs to >gain User/passowords
>Cracking is also considered when you gain those illegal
>Crackz to make your downloaded trail version full versions

STOP THIS HURTS!!! What about John the Ripper a password cracking tool and all the password crackers that run in a nix environment.

>>@thetechfreak: [qoute] most crackers use linux though, >>never herd of 'red hat' used before . this is funny but not >>TRUE

>Hackers use Linux due to the fact most servers that get >hacked are UNIX based, after all the web was designed for >UNIX, not as many would think WindowZ.

Hackers use linux due to the fact that tcpip is originally a unix suite, correct (once in a post aint bad!).

>Also Linux is open source. Therefore all my Programs etc are >Legal, I will not get into the Windowz movement any more
>But why should  Linux user Crack Seriallz to free software, ?
>thats for windowz users

Reverse engineering is a form of hacking cracking is cracking


>there are many other forms like Phreaking etc.

>At the end of the day, it isnt right.

You need to learn before you attemot to talk with authority on the subject now go away and read some material before you comment on hacking and mix it up with all sorts of other things. Mosty linux users would class themselves as hackers due to the fact that they have to fix/ rewrite a lot of crappy open source software which they download, is this illegal???
Is this not right?? Go back to reading the register they will teach you all you need to know muahahaha.


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