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Jason425 · #1 09-02-2004, 11:24 PM

http://www.freedomunderground.org/me...entagon121.swf

I only wonder why the T's wouldn't deny it if that's true..

vee_ess · #2 09-03-2004, 12:59 AM

I dont know what to think. There seems to be a lot of propoganda in there. For example, the references to it being a bomb. You can visually see there was an impact being mono-directional, like an airliner, commuter airplane, or even possibly a weak missile (which basically takes away the possibility of it being a missile right there, because I've not seen many missiles with enough mass to cause that kind of damage without enough explosion to send stuff back out...), not omni-directional like a bomb.

The producers of that video spend a lot of time expressing that there should have been visible debris from an airliner and that witnesses state they saw a plane or something simliliar hit the ground then enter the Pentagon. Well, if any of those things hit the ground we'd be able to see an impact in the ground, which we cannot. Supposing an airliner had hit the Pentagon, we would not see the debris. At over 500MPH into a structure of that strength, composed of steel-reinforced concrete in a very sound architectural design, it won't matter if the wings and tail come off, they will disintegrate. As for the comparison to what happens to a 500MPH plane into the ground, it is completely illegitimate due to the significant differences in hardness.

As for the sounds of "whooshing" or other similiar descriptions, I think that's total BS. None of us know what a jet sounds like at 530MPH, except from inside the cabin where the sound is very much altered. And how many of us know what a missile sounds like? No, the movies don't count (plus they add the sound in after video is taken anyways). I know what I've heard jet engines on those airliners seems more like a low rumble than a higher pitch whoosh, like what many think of the sound of one, but thats when they are on the ground and not revving very high.

The FBI took in those videos and won't release them. Oh, my. When Roosevelt (or some other president, I really don't remember) was running for office, he'd find out about something the government was "covering up" because many people believed they saw a space ship. When he took office, he said very sternly that he had no comment about the matter. Years later it was revealed that what people saw was just military testing of the B-2 (Stealth Bomber). Videos being kept secret really don't surprise me at all, especially when the matters are still being looked into.

I did see some compelling material to make me believe that there is a decent chance that what we have been told is not true. At the same time, I don't think the options that have been presented are flawless either.

Napster · #3 09-03-2004, 02:36 PM

The T's just want corruption so of course they would be thrilled to hear that America is divided against itself on this issue.

Jason425 · #4 09-03-2004, 02:38 PM

Whoever that guy is says: Terrorists Win...

#5 09-03-2004, 05:15 PM

Well, since I'm a Civil Engineer I agree with the structural part. The ASCE (American Society of Civil Engineers) said that a large plane couldn't go throught reinforced walls like that. I agree. It had to be small because of the way the walls collapsed. I wish they could use that video they showed and run some filters over it to see what that image was that looked like a plane. A Boeing flying at 530MPH 2 feet from the ground is almost impossible unless a computer was guiding it...