I try to help and this is what i get?

[Prometheus]

Okay I almost got suspended...but instead i cant use the ntwrk computers at my school UNLESS supervised until jan something....heres how it happened.


I finally figured out how to get past my schools filtering thanks to the proxy sites......well none of em worked until that cprox.netfirms.com which used a proxy to get to the proxy sites...anyway...i let the company know unfortunatly it was anonymus due to outlook not being able to send out....soooo i had to use comcast webmail which did not display my name...now

heres the emails that followed.....(read in reverse order bottom up..)
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One condition I would like a default code of some kind so that I may still get past it.

I am not going to give up something that took me so long to figure out so easily ( I will not give this away i am a very responsible computer oriented 14 year old)
Sure, please send me the details.

Thanks.

A Suport Rep
8e6 Technologies
----- Original Message -----
From: <demonking@comcast.net>
To: <support@8e6technologies.com>; <support@8e6technologies.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:25 AM


> i have found a way past your security filtering on Mercer Island School
disctrict's website
>
> Let me know if you would like to patch it

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Yeah well now that they had my name and school district i and they had a problem...i perhaps should have worded my mails a bit differently i accept that is where i screwed up....sounds like i am demanding the default code.....

Anyway...this was taken as a hacker threat (cmon....i hardly can write visual basic)
Soon they found me....................

Anyway...today i was called into the principals office....wanted me to accept i was wrong blah blah think im special to ask for default code the usual....what really pissed me off is that they said i broke the internet code of conduct.......guess what...i am in network admin...getting past security is what i am supposed to troubleshoot....besides they kind think i was hacking

So here i am.....
Looks like i will just have to bring my laptop for a while now :P


i know i am little sketchy on something just ask...i have to go to the gym now cya

[Uranium-235]

they let you plug your top in to the net?

You have to understand what they see as a threat to them. First of all you are 'breaking a rule' one of their rules for that matter. I'm sure the rule was made by a school district's network administrator or someone a bit lower then that. The teachers / principal just have to follow the disciplinary route because they don't understand what you are doing. When someone doesn't know what you are doing, they start getting uneasy with you. Even though you view yourself as a responsible computer kid thats definately not what most adults will view you as when you are doing something they do not recognize on a computer. I recognize the condescending feel that adults give you especially when they don't know what you do about computers.

I personally have encountered this, but I had connections with certain people in the [schools] administration that knew how positive my actions were. You may not have that luxury, and can get nailed if you don't. Luckily you got off with supervised use, I know a handful of people who thought they were hot shit always talking me down because of this or that. I chuckled while I sat back and they got busted.

being in a network administration class doesn't mean you can compromise the school districts "Internet code of conduct" though. Not in the eyes of the ones who discipline you [ teachers and or principal, etc. ].

I have a question though: who were those emails to? the company that owns the filtering software? or the school districts admin?

[Jason425]

pro.. 90% of the time, school officials (and school computer people) are retards that are on too big of power trips to LET you help them. let them fall to the hands of some real hacker

or just hide your secret stuff on the memory that networked printers have for spooling or even the solidstate memory that they have for firmware updates! have it upload through tftp automatically some date or time that you are not around to some other computer and you can cause some real havok

[Prometheus]

even better i hide my stuff on a flash drive

BTW what really ticks me off is another few things

1.Every kid in the F*cking network uses games (the most broadcasted rule) and chatting
2.I told the admin last week THE SCHOOL NETWORK ADMIN and he didnt seem to care much....
3.I realize that the principal is kind of dumb in this and i am pissed that she disiplined me without all the info

What really made them crack though is i said ive been trying to get through the filter for a while (last year once) i was doing my racism report and lo and behold...........ACCESS DENIED so i kind of wanted to get past it.....but man are they pissed I agree i should be punished but not that harshly

[Prometheus]

btw merclod i didnt compromise the schools rules i got past a FEDERAL LAW

And also there was no rule ANYWHERE saying that i cant get around the filter.....tomorrow morning i will type up the usage conduct rules

[Prometheus]

okay and um i just discovered this

My dad just talked with the principal....according to her i asked for money If you read the emails (which are convieniently backed up on my hd) youll notice i didnt wow anything to screw me in the A$$

[MIK3]

Haha. Schools and security don't go well together. My highschool, the network admins are such dumbasses, it's not even funny. Alright, they are so ignorant, all they do is trace back to either your history or cookies...the two things that are the most easiest to rid of when you are in need of getting rid of them. If they "catch" you in the act, they'll find some other thing to charge you with, being as ignorant as they are. I hate it when the teachers think they know what they are doing because for once in their 40 years of teaching, they get to use computers. Screw em all is what I say.

I want to give an example to re-illustrate my point:

Every kid in the F*cking network uses games (the most broadcasted rule) and chatting

Even though you view yourself as a responsible computer kid thats definately not what most adults will view you as when you are doing something they do not recognize on a computer

alright, they play games. In their heads they are thinking, this kid isn't messing around with games, he could be doing something much more serious -- he needs to be whipped into shape. Whenever there is the slightest loss of control in the system [ in this case them being oblivious to what you were actually doing ], the students get punished. Same as any micro-civilization or any heirarchical model. in other words they do not view you as one of the other kids who messes around with games, they consider that you may be 'changing grades', viruses, or the like. I know this is their mindset because thats exactly what they told me when I had to work on the network.


Oh yeah, how is holding it on a flash drive any better than stow away places that are directly connected to the network? how convenient is that? I sure as hell think its a lot more then putting it on some flash drive and then, in turn, putting it on a workstation or your laptop [which is much more identifyable/tracable then a conveniently displaced time-released tftp execution :P ]

One more thing, which federal law did you 'get past'?

MIK3: screw em all? i don't think i'll go there...eww