HARDWAREPUB.COM DOMAIN NAME HIJACKED

Ditto what Wizbones said.

Well, wixbones responce makes good sense and I would endorse it. At this point we need to hear a rebuttle from keefe, or some type of explanation. The 'concerned citizen' - guest above presented some good facts and we have no way of knowing if he is sincere or not.  Not including his name doesn't bother me, after all he may not wish to recieve any hate mail or whatever.

But in every dispute there are winners and losers, just like court cases, and if keefe hasn't taken the high road here , how are we suppose to know.

An explanation from Keefe would certainly be in order and welcomed.

[Keefe]

In response to the concerned citizen, which is obviously Mr. Maher himself:

1) Their bill was not paid.  To this date, you can still call up NSI and ask them about one of hundreds of domains in Netwurx's partner account and they will tell you that the domain is in unpaid status.  In fact, NSI has assured me that the unpaid invoice is over 9 pages long, and all of the domains are going to be suspended soon.  If Netwurx thinks they pay, I can only laugh when their whole ISP goes down from a domain suspension.

I could not have "easily registered the domain with another registrar."  If you are at all familiar with NSI, you will know that they do not allow any domains to be transferred that are in unpaid status.  In fact, even once they become paid you must wait 60 days to transfer them away.  NSI did give me the option of paying the whole invoice, of approx $900 dollars and waiting 60 days.  Obviously I was not going to pay for all of Netwurx's domains.  I actually tried to transfer the domain 4 times, and every single time it was denied for that same reason.

Also, the domain was paid through 06/30/2003, so Mr. Maher cannot make the claim that he did not want to pay for it.  Since it would not come up for renew for another TWO YEARS.

2) The only way to remove it from a partner account is to transfer to another registrar.  Firstly, the partner account must allow the " release" of the domain.  Secondly, the domain could not be transferred because of the aforementioned reasons.

3) As you can see, Mr. Maher is trying to discredit us by making reckless accusations.  I have never "squatted" and domains, if you think otherwise please enlighten me so I can know of it.  On the contrary to me, Mr. Maher is KNOWN to be a domain squatter. He has "squatted" allaboutkids.com from Disney, INC.

In response to calling the business daily. Since I was a paying customer I have the right to call the business whenever I want, especially when the business is doing me wrong.  I actually only called a few times a week, and it was only this much since the person who I need to talk to was seemingly never in the office.

You can see that man is dishonest, and is just trying to cover his tracks because he messed up.  You can clearly see that he does not even know what he is talking about since his registrar is Network Solutions, not registrars.  I also highly doubt that this complaint is unfounded, since the FBI, ICANN, and NSI management have taken great interest in helping me out.

[MIK3]

Due to the overwhellming evidence that keefe has provided for us...i feel that this Mr. Maher is a criminal at that and i leagally declare him a retard....that is down right disgusting to take away a site that belongs to DISNEY INC.  You have to be mentally wrong to take away a site for kids being that there arent that many here on the net as there are for adults and teens.  Obvioulsly your right keefe, this guy doesnt know what he is talking about...in fact...i dont think this guy knows himself.  I also cant see himself backing himself up  with the FBI, ICANN, & NSI comming after him!  I hope that he realizes what kind of spider web he has been caught in and that the black widow is closely approaching...i think that in the near future the only place that this guy will be "squatting" will be on a steel toilet in a jail cell!  Yeah it still looks like the tracks he has been trying to cover up is still very visible and that he isnt doing a good job at all.  

I am sure this string will be deleted because the above individual is responsible for this domain.  

 I am sure that this statement wasnt a one of truth, but a statement of a plead of trying to find some way out of this hole that he has dug him self.  If he really thinks that that thread will be deleted....well he better think of that again...because i think that this thread will be here for quite a while and i think that i have most of the ppl here to back that statement up...all of us here hopefully know what is going on now and i disbelive that keefe would lie on this topic because there is something about this guy that makes me think that hes not that type of guy to lie to his fellow members.  

In the words of a fellow member Mighty_Chef...i think that it would be 100% appropriate to close this post off with a nice...

" Cheers   "  

P.S.- Chef will return...

[wizbones]

I see no overwhelming evidence on either parties case here.

It's a he said/he said string at best.

At this point all I can offer up on the table is this : Keefe if you are indeed wronged here and lost your domain becuase someone dropped the ball. Pick up the ball and run with it and fight legally as best you can to regain the domain.

If you cannot then it's time to move on and let bygons be bygons. Chalk it up as a lesson learned, store it in the ol database and aviod it again in the future.

To sit here and belittle the wrong doer in question here is a bit rediculous in my opinion. It's been done right? Can you do anything about it? Sounds to me like NO is the answer. Ok, next step. Register a new domain that works for you and keep on trucking.

All the other posts of angry, and rediculous bable about what you are going to do yada yada I can't bare to repeat most of it. Hey it's time to grow up and act somewhat responsibly.

Things happen and we either learn from our mistakes or we continue to repeat them throughout our lives. Doing the same thing over and over expecting diferrent results I believe that is called insanity.

Is bashing the company in question going to fix it? Is continually harassing and spewing vulgarities going to fix it? Didn't think so.

Good luck Keefe with what ever path you decide to travel down. Ball is in your court and you've got a decission to make. Move on or go insane   :-*

Wow, Mr Maher has graced us with his presence!  Hello Pete from the other guy that owned domains that you chose to delete!

I can personally vouch for atleast 90% of what Keefe has said.  I can't vouch for the full 100%, only because Keefe has talked to about 3 times as many department heads and managers at NetSol/Verisign than I did.    

As employees of Netwurx, we paid for our domains with deductions on our paychecks or with hours worked under the table.  It was a decent deal then, $14/year of registration.  Now it's easy enough to get even cheaper on your own.  

Pete, you got behind in your bill with Registrars.com and after they rolled those accounts over into NetSol, they called you on those bad debts.  So you opted to delete Keefe's and my domains to whittle down your $900 debt.

So everyone knows, our domains were paid for a good time.  I had a few domains that were to expire Sept11, 2002, but that was a good 3 months in the future.  Most of the rest of my domains were good well into 2003.  Keefe's domains were in the same boat.

Pete, short and sweet you f*cked Keefe and f*cked yourself and your company.  This story has gotten the attention of the national media, the FBI (not sure what jurisdiction they have over the matter, but I will be calling them too), NSI, and ICANN.  Let me ask you a few closing questions:

1) How long do you think it will take for the local media to catch wind of this and publish it?  When someone's garbage cans get stole, that makes front page news - where do you think this will get posted in the Hartford Times?  Where do you think the Milw J/S will put it?

2) What do you think customers will think when they find out that their ISP that hosts their professional business websites - they are in so heavy of debt that they have to jettison paid for domains to remain solvent?

3) How long do you think it will take before Keefe has respectable lawyers contacting him to represent him and his company to achieve compensation for his easily proven losses?  How much will it cost to have your expensive Chicago lawyer advise you on these affairs?

4) How many people will you have to terminate just to stay in business?  

Well, last one is overkill, but you get my point.  It's just to show you that your actions ripple back to you each time you do something hurtful like this.  As a good example, look at me.  Months after you lay me off, I hear that you were talking about how you thought I was hacking your customer database to get info on customers so I could advertise my computer repair services.  You then retailiate by giving me bad references, which leaves me jobless and idle and mad.  Months later you find out that it was another employee that was stealing your info and hacking your network.  So, because you went overkill, I went months without work and just ruined our friendship.  Of course, you know what happened then.  

For the better good of your company, you really should run al your rash decisions past Pamela.  She atleast had business sense and knew to plan her actions around future repercussions.  It's proven by her awesome win ratio in FreeCell.

Pete, I just heard about the Inforamp domains.  Ouch, seems you let a few other domains get deleted too?  Well, maybe we can all sue together.  CLASS ACTION TIME!  

Take care-
 -Eric-

Well, Mr Maher's full BS!!!! I am supporting Keefe's action against the Hijacker/Hacker

Maher should go to polygraph for the lie detector by the FBI agents, if he gets guilty, heh! Maher's loser and landing into the jail box!


[quote author=WildEric link=board=general&num=1024013865&start=15#25 date=06/19/02 at 13:46:52]
Wow, Mr Maher has graced us with his presence!  Hello Pete from the other guy that owned domains that you chose to delete!

I can personally vouch for atleast 90% of what Keefe has said.  I can't vouch for the full 100%, only because Keefe has talked to about 3 times as many department heads and managers at NetSol/Verisign than I did.    

As employees of Netwurx, we paid for our domains with deductions on our paychecks or with hours worked under the table.  It was a decent deal then, $14/year of registration.  Now it's easy enough to get even cheaper on your own.  

Pete, you got behind in your bill with Registrars.com and after they rolled those accounts over into NetSol, they called you on those bad debts.  So you opted to delete Keefe's and my domains to whittle down your $900 debt.

So everyone knows, our domains were paid for a good time.  I had a few domains that were to expire Sept11, 2002, but that was a good 3 months in the future.  Most of the rest of my domains were good well into 2003.  Keefe's domains were in the same boat.

Pete, short and sweet you f*cked Keefe and f*cked yourself and your company.  This story has gotten the attention of the national media, the FBI (not sure what jurisdiction they have over the matter, but I will be calling them too), NSI, and ICANN.  Let me ask you a few closing questions:

1) How long do you think it will take for the local media to catch wind of this and publish it?  When someone's garbage cans get stole, that makes front page news - where do you think this will get posted in the Hartford Times?  Where do you think the Milw J/S will put it?

2) What do you think customers will think when they find out that their ISP that hosts their professional business websites - they are in so heavy of debt that they have to jettison paid for domains to remain solvent?

3) How long do you think it will take before Keefe has respectable lawyers contacting him to represent him and his company to achieve compensation for his easily proven losses?  How much will it cost to have your expensive Chicago lawyer advise you on these affairs?

4) How many people will you have to terminate just to stay in business?  

Well, last one is overkill, but you get my point.  It's just to show you that your actions ripple back to you each time you do something hurtful like this.  As a good example, look at me.  Months after you lay me off, I hear that you were talking about how you thought I was hacking your customer database to get info on customers so I could advertise my computer repair services.  You then retailiate by giving me bad references, which leaves me jobless and idle and mad.  Months later you find out that it was another employee that was stealing your info and hacking your network.  So, because you went overkill, I went months without work and just ruined our friendship.  Of course, you know what happened then.  

For the better good of your company, you really should run al your rash decisions past Pamela.  She atleast had business sense and knew to plan her actions around future repercussions.  It's proven by her awesome win ratio in FreeCell.

Pete, I just heard about the Inforamp domains.  Ouch, seems you let a few other domains get deleted too?  Well, maybe we can all sue together.  CLASS ACTION TIME!  

Take care-
 -Eric-
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[MIK3]

well it looks like this Mr. Maher obviously doesnt know what to say and is dumbfounded by this whole situation or has packed up for ever and moved to Europe!  I hope the stupid PUNK does leave for ever...but id rather prefer him being a true representative of his crappy, low-life self and respond to this thread so that all of us can hear what he has to say.  This way we can see if he can back up all his lies on his part w/ all of the conclusive evidence that everyone has posted on this thread!  Im glad that keefe has finally taken this public which i recommended on my first post i believe.  I dont believe this is still the same he said/she said ordeal anymore...this has gotten down to the bare facts and it seems that this Mr. Maher is about to get pounded into the ground with a nice sludge hammer!  I dont see why anyone would make all of this information up mearly as a publicity stunt, because keefe wouldnt post this unless it really concerened the illegal actions that were litterally "taken" with Mr. Maher.  Personally, i think this low-life could get the best lawyer in the world and still get creamed in this dispute due to the relentless lies that he has faced w/ himself as well as criminal actions taken.  This guys going down keefe....all the way down...

[wizbones]

Very interesting article pretty much the same scenario as here.

http://www.textism.com/article/494/

I know Keefe personally, and have had many conversations with him. He has aided me in several job's fixing puters and such. I can tell you that we had many conversations regarding what he and others wanted to do as far a business ventures go. Squatting? I don't think so. He had plans for each and everyone of those ventures.
I don't know this Pete personally, however had met him briefly once. I was NOT impressed.
I personally advised Keefe to go to the local district attorny when he received a very threatening letter from this Pete, and to top it all off, Keefe was not yet 18.
Can you say " Threatening a minor"?
Keefe is just to dam easy going. If it were me, I would have the perpetrator of this whole thing hanging on a very sharp stick, sometimes known as "how many charges can you bring against a person" Ya just got to use the tools that our society has furnished us with. The news media, the district attorny, and the courts. In the end the rightious will prevail.
Yes it still Pi--es me off to the max when I see someone screw over people that put their trust in them. This man should be run out of town on a Rail, better yet, where are the tar and feathers.