to all the posts about Bush...

[StinkyMojo]

nice to see you almost outta college.. congrats..

btw.. jason 1st year college student now
same for me

[vee_ess]

I agree with gnogtr about how Jason425s conceptions are innacurrate. In truth, you have to look at the degrees of idealism/realism in various groups... Kerry is an idealist; he never needed a plan, just the belief that it will all work out if he is in office. Young people, especially those in high school or early years of college, are very strongly idealists. Bush is more of a realist, who has a plan, but can't admit when he's wrong (making reference to the debates mostly). Conservatives and older generations and cultures often show little hope, or at least count on it, and often fail to recognize problems (because they choose not to because they don't think anything can be done about it anyways).

I can understand why Jason425 would think something like he does, however. Liberal articles and online documentation is just as much yellow-journalism as their conservative counterparts, just as misleading. That leads me to all those liberal groups claiming that there are "mountains" of evidence piling proving that the election was rigged. These different sites show somewhat surprising data, but it's often contradicted by the data on other sites, proving that most of them are not being purely honest in their reporting (or their sources aren't). Also, claims of ESS and Diebold rigging the election show a lack of knowledge about how electronic voting works. ESS and Diebold do not have access to the closed network, and they couldn't have rigged the machines beforehand because states and precincts set up the voting layouts.

I'm beginning to see that the only one in Kerry's camp who isn't a sore loser is John Kerry.

Ok, I was wrong about his college status, but I'm still quite firm in the beliefs that I stated, and yes I agree that Bush has a problem admitting that he is wrong sometimes, but I myself am guilty of that...Although with my new job, I'm rarely wrong

[Napster]

Gnogtr why do you even put up with his BS, I swear to God when I become admin Jason425 will be the first to go.

[Prometheus]

Just for that you will never become admin. Napster. I will see to it.

[Dragon]

Originally Posted by Napster

Gnogtr why do you even put up with his BS, I swear to God when I become admin Jason425 will be the first to go.

[/napster shoots self in foot]

[Jason425]

Originally Posted by Dragon

[/napster shoots self in foot]

hey pro.. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!

and gnogtr.. I said MOST .. not all... and didn't specifically say you.. but take it how you wish..

Originally Posted by vee_ess

Conservatives and older generations and cultures often show little hope, or at least count on it, and often fail to recognize problems (because they choose not to because they don't think anything can be done about it anyways).

I agree. The public has become so disenfranchised from the current government that they no longer want to participate in it. For the people, by the people has no meaning any more because the average Joe that works his a$$ off day after day has to sit and watch big companies pour mega dollars into lobbyist to persuade law makers into doing what is best for them. NAFTA and China's Preferred Trade status is just two examples. Not to mention outsourcing to India!!!

The U.S legislative process has become big business. Simple as that. It's not about what is good for the people anymore. Bush, Kerry, or Larry Flint. It doesn't matter. Big business trumps all.

[Jason425]

next: trump is pres...

[Prometheus]

I agree with the business bit...iraq.....lots of oil....we are on federal reserves...bush is too cheap to make a hydrogen car system......he him self is a bit of an oil tycoon.....