hehehe whatever ya think man

Also would not matter if you bought the 2800 over the 3000 because the 2500,2800 and 3000 will all overclock to about the same point, I was gonna try to get to ya and let ya know also before ya ordered it looks like the 2800+ chips non barton are overclocking better and netting some better scores! I cannot wait to see your 3dmark man

It's gonna be high! I am just trying to get into the 18,000 range right now... I scored this last night with my $95 chip
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5979854
Also all of this is on 100% air baby! I was able to tweak the system into running very fast ddr timings and also running at 204fsb stable right now. New heatsink and fan will be in tommorow and I should be able to break into the 18,000 mark just bairly. Also my oem sapphire card is still doing awsome, I am running stable now at 407 / 346 with no v mods on the card or artifacts! The new heatsink design is working awsome and I am keeping the core under 100F on the 9700 pro which is insane hehe. I used a temp probe to check the results! Not bad for about the cheapest 9700 going!