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Prometheus · #21 07-31-2005, 02:07 AM

Firefox crashes maybe once a week on me.......its always when i open lots of windows with scripts on them...

#22 07-31-2005, 12:13 PM

I use firefox for some sites and some things but I haven't had it crash too much.

Also the other reason I dont like it is that it takes a bit to load and then it gets going faster

Jason425 · #23 07-31-2005, 01:03 PM

https://addons.mozilla.org/themes/mo...cation=firefox
is cool though

#24 07-31-2005, 03:35 PM

Hey thats a pretty cool addon......I may just DL it

#25 08-01-2005, 04:01 PM

I am using and have been for quite a while with no problems

#26 08-01-2005, 04:09 PM

Ya it works on some peoples computers and what not but it just is REALLY annoying sometimes

Prometheus · #27 08-01-2005, 04:11 PM

there tiny little tweaks you can use.....

#28 08-01-2005, 04:24 PM

oh ya? care to share with me lol

Omega · #29 08-29-2005, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by James

if i could apt-get install opera, i'd probably take it for a spin. it's apparently a lot snappier than FF.

Opera does offer a .deb file for download, making the dpkg -i fairly easy (though admittely not as nice as apt-get install). In my opinion, it's entirely worth the extra 25-second investement of your time and bandwidth.

I use Opera on all my systems, ranging from my main desktop Windows XP 3 GHz, to OS X on G4 PowerBook, back to Windows XP on a TransMeta 700 MHz Crusoe laptop (very slow), to Debian and Ubuntu testing and development systems from 1-3 GHz. In addition to offering a great feature-set out of the box, Opera's claims of being "The Fastest Browser on Earth" have held up in my experiences (as well as in most of these tests: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html ).

I have to keep Firefox around for testing web pages I code (and actually, has been the "IE" of the three browsers I test in Windows in more than a few situations (surprisingly, worse than actual IE)), but it really just doesn't do it for me. I've found some aspects of its usability to be rather lacking, and as Jason425 pointed out, has some stability problems. I'm frankly rather annoyed at the new trend of people designing web pages "for FireFox," rather than simply using open standards [compliance] and cross-platform applet formats (if absolutely necessary). Screw ActiveX, etc., and use Java :-/ if you really need to do something that can't be done with xhtml/css/dhtml/svg/etc. (SVG, that reminds me ... use an open implementation of svg, rather than requiring Adobe's stupid plugin.)[/rant]

vee_ess · #30 08-29-2005, 06:00 PM

I completely agree with you Omega about people needing to use open standards. We could easily force browsers to use established, open, and fair standards, but so many program specifically for browsers. Most who do, that I've come across, do it to support a browser, but it's only supporting their monopolistic practices which isn't good for the end-user. Opera is easily the best coded browser, it supports more functionality than Firefox (without adding problems that is), and faster, and is far more secure and reliable that IE. What I don't like about Opera is that they leave out many areas of W3 which I feel should be standard in any browser. That's why pages sometimes function or look weird in Opera. I assume that to be because they don't have the programming resources that open development (FF) and big business (IE) have. Almost forgot, Opera has crappy betas, too (but then again so does IE).

BTW, Java sucks.

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